Inverter Split AC?

Inverter Split AC?

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Guys please suggest good brands/model in 1 Ton inverter split AC. I have to buy immediately in Delhi..in next 2-3 days.

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And also where to get good deals on inverter split ACs? I noticed that flipkart and amazon both have withdrawn cashback deals, though it was there 2 days back but that time they were not delivering anything in my areas. Now when delivery is opened, they withdrawn all cashbacks.

Is it better to buy from reliance digital, vijay sales, chroma ??

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worldindia2000 wrote:

And also where to get good deals on inverter split ACs? I noticed that flipkart and amazon both have withdrawn cashback deals, though it was there 2 days back but that time they were not delivering anything in my areas. Now when delivery is opened, they withdrawn all cashbacks.

Is it better to buy from reliance digital, vijay sales, chroma ??

Buying from reliance digital/croma is better considering customer service but they are a bit costlier.

Vijay sales is a bit cheaper but it is equivalent to buying from online as they don’t help in case any problem arises. You will have to directly deal with brand. Generally if you buy a good branded product then there is no risk as brands do take care of everything.

Considering brands check https://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/...

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if you have hdfc card still sale is on flipkart till midnight today.

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I explored AC brands last week on DD and various other forums, etc etc, below is my research………..

Premium range – Mitsubishi heavy duty and OGeneral – very expensive and out of our pockets, so do not rank them stuck_out_tongue
No 1: Daikin, Hitachi, BlueStar
No 2: Carrier, LG, Samsung, Panasonic, Whirlpool (not clear if whirlpool is no2 or no3)
No 3: Godrej, Onida, Sharp (by Panasonic), Midea (by Carrier), Sansui

Few things you should keep in mind:

  • Copper is better (then aluminium or alloy)
  • 5 star rating is best, but 3 star is also good if you compare price difference and then annual electricity consumption (i have all 3 star ACs). 3 star models are easily available.
  • Features like: auto restart, sleep, timer are common in all ACs but imp to have
  • Also look for highest temp compressor support (some compressor works supports outside temp 45C and some upto 48 or 50C). This is imp for north India as my old AC compressor gets cutoff at outside 45C, and then restart after 5 min cooling time (prefer to take upto 48C compressor)
  • Remote – if it glow at night, it better (like Voltas glows, Hitachi remote has led light, for Daikin you need to take out your mobile phone light as Daikin AC indoor unit do not display temp also), but this is not a mandatory feature if you get a better deal
  • Gas – now R32 is latest, and previous one was R410, but I think both have same cooling performance (R32 is good for our env ozone layer)
  • Warranty: Usually warranty is 1, 5 years (i.e. 1 yr compete ac and 5 yr compressor). Some AC provide 1, 10 so this is better, and some provide 1, 3, 10 (2yr extended for condencer, PCB and gas refilling). If you are getting this 1, 3, 10, then definately this is good as 2 yr extende warranty costs anywhere between 2000-3000. And gas refilling is a major relief specially for Split AC as split AC have common problem of gas leakage if any of the pipe joint has even 0.001% gap. Also note Voltas offer 4 yr extended warranty (1, 5, 5) if purchased from Croma store or TataCliq.cm or Croma.com website, this is good offer, but condition is that 2nd yr onwards you should book AC service from Voltas custcare (their service cost is high but it ensure that you have maintained Voltas AC properly, then only Voltas honor your extended warranty)
  • Split AC: If buying split AC, you can go for inverter split ac as it reduces electricity bills (compare annual electricity consumption given in all ACs and then decide). Please note inverter split AC PCB is the most sophisticated part and if damaged it costs 7000-9000 if PCB without warranty
  • Stablizer: though stablizer free operation is mentioned, bubt advisble to keep a stablizer dedicated for AC (costs 1600 V-Guard VG400 or 2000 for VG500)
  • Last but not the least Price: This is the deciding factor for most of us (incl me) smile smile . If you are getting a extremely good deal in any of the No 3 AC listed above, buy extra extended warranty and enjoy. So buying Daikin 1 ton 3 star inverter split in 32K + 1500 installation + 1600 stablizer + 2000 other install costs = 36-37k (for 1, 5yr warranty). Or if you get Onida 1 ton 3 star inverter split ac in 21K + 1K install + 2k extdnded warranty = 24k is also a good deal. Similarly Midea is same 1 ton 3 star inverter split AC cost 23k + 1k install + 2k extdned warranty (total 1, 2, 10yr) costs 26K is also good deal.

You have to decide you want premier or No 1 brand or go with no 2 or no 3 in a damm good deal.

I recently bough Bluestar 1 ton 3 star inverter split from amazon in 30.5k + rs500 install = 31k (getting 1, 3, 10 yr warranty) but no cashback. I wanted to buy Onida 1 ton interver split from flipkart in 21+1+2k for extdend warrnty =24k but it was not deliverable at my pincode. Other no 2 brands were costing 29-30k, so i opted no 1 brand in 31k from amazon with no cashback

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Buy Hitachi with 10 year warranty on compressor
5 years warranty for other parts

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Tera_Jija wrote:

Buying from reliance digital/croma is better considering customer service but they are a bit costlier.

Vijay sales is a bit cheaper but it is equivalent to buying from online as they don’t help in case any problem arises. You will have to directly deal with brand. Generally if you buy a good branded product then there is no risk as brands do take care of everything.

Considering brands check https://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/...

Don’t go for Vijay Sales. They sold me a defective item in shipment and refused to replace it. Product was from a branded company, so thought to buy from there as it was cheapest.

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wiiplayony wrote:

Don’t go for Vijay Sales. They sold me a defective item in shipment and refused to replace it. Product was from a branded company, so thought to buy from there as it was cheapest.

But most of the branded items have warranty. Didn’t you claim that especially if product itself was defective.

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Tera_Jija wrote:

But most of the branded items have warranty. Didn’t you claim that especially if product itself was defective.

I’ve complained numerous times, but the brand is not ready to replace it. Machine doesn’t look repairable.

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wiiplayony wrote:

Don’t go for Vijay Sales. They sold me a defective item in shipment and refused to replace it. Product was from a branded company, so thought to buy from there as it was cheapest.

I had similar case with Vijay Sales. I received split AC last year and product seal was open (the brands own tapes and overall pack seems open). I refused to accept delivery and also captured video in front of delivery guy showing pack seal came opened. I immediately called Vijay Sales store guy and told the issue. I refused to accept delivery and then he agreed to replace it. Next day they came with a brand tape presealed packs.

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rogerthat wrote:

Buy Hitachi with 10 year warranty on compressor
5 years warranty for other parts

Not all models of Hitachi have 10 yr on compressor, but model you selected has 10yr on compressor, then Hitachi is great choice

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OGeneral ones are costlier but they are the best and even after 5 years they give the same level of cooling. and please dont go for invertor technology

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Professor1 wrote:

OGeneral ones are costlier but they are the best and even after 5 years they give the same level of cooling. and please dont go for invertor technology

Y should we avoid inverter models

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Professor1 wrote:

OGeneral ones are costlier but they are the best and even after 5 years they give the same level of cooling. and please dont go for invertor technology

Why to avoid inverter split technology? I purchased my 2nd inverter split ac laat week flushed

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What a useless BlueStar customercare imp I am trying to book installation but so called 24×7 no plays recorded msg they will call back. Rcvd one call ystrdy and call disconnected. Since then nobody called back. Dialed tollfree 5 times, heard they will call back in 2 hrs imp
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worldindia2000 wrote:

I explored AC brands last week on DD and various other forums, etc etc, below is my research………..

Premium range – Mitsubishi heavy duty and OGeneral – very expensive and out of our pockets, so do not rank them stuck_out_tongue
No 1: Daikin, Hitachi, BlueStar
No 2: Carrier, LG, Samsung, Panasonic, Whirlpool (not clear if whirlpool is no2 or no3)
No 3: Godrej, Onida, Sharp (by Panasonic), Midea (by Carrier), Sansui

Few things you should keep in mind:

  • Copper is better (then aluminium or alloy)
  • 5 star rating is best, but 3 star is also good if you compare price difference and then annual electricity consumption (i have all 3 star ACs). 3 star models are easily available.
  • Features like: auto restart, sleep, timer are common in all ACs but imp to have
  • Also look for highest temp compressor support (some compressor works supports outside temp 45C and some upto 48 or 50C). This is imp for north India as my old AC compressor gets cutoff at outside 45C, and then restart after 5 min cooling time (prefer to take upto 48C compressor)
  • Remote – if it glow at night, it better (like Voltas glows, Hitachi remote has led light, for Daikin you need to take out your mobile phone light as Daikin AC indoor unit do not display temp also), but this is not a mandatory feature if you get a better deal
  • Gas – now R32 is latest, and previous one was R410, but I think both have same cooling performance (R32 is good for our env ozone layer)
  • Warranty: Usually warranty is 1, 5 years (i.e. 1 yr compete ac and 5 yr compressor). Some AC provide 1, 10 so this is better, and some provide 1, 3, 10 (2yr extended for condencer, PCB and gas refilling). If you are getting this 1, 3, 10, then definately this is good as 2 yr extende warranty costs anywhere between 2000-3000. And gas refilling is a major relief specially for Split AC as split AC have common problem of gas leakage if any of the pipe joint has even 0.001% gap. Also note Voltas offer 4 yr extended warranty (1, 5, 5) if purchased from Croma store or TataCliq.cm or Croma.com website, this is good offer, but condition is that 2nd yr onwards you should book AC service from Voltas custcare (their service cost is high but it ensure that you have maintained Voltas AC properly, then only Voltas honor your extended warranty)
  • Split AC: If buying split AC, you can go for inverter split ac as it reduces electricity bills (compare annual electricity consumption given in all ACs and then decide). Please note inverter split AC PCB is the most sophisticated part and if damaged it costs 7000-9000 if PCB without warranty
  • Stablizer: though stablizer free operation is mentioned, bubt advisble to keep a stablizer dedicated for AC (costs 1600 V-Guard VG400 or 2000 for VG500)
  • Last but not the least Price: This is the deciding factor for most of us (incl me) smile smile . If you are getting a extremely good deal in any of the No 3 AC listed above, buy extra extended warranty and enjoy. So buying Daikin 1 ton 3 star inverter split in 32K + 1500 installation + 1600 stablizer + 2000 other install costs = 36-37k (for 1, 5yr warranty). Or if you get Onida 1 ton 3 star inverter split ac in 21K + 1K install + 2k extdnded warranty = 24k is also a good deal. Similarly Midea is same 1 ton 3 star inverter split AC cost 23k + 1k install + 2k extdned warranty (total 1, 2, 10yr) costs 26K is also good deal.

You have to decide you want premier or No 1 brand or go with no 2 or no 3 in a damm good deal.

I recently bough Bluestar 1 ton 3 star inverter split from amazon in 30.5k + rs500 install = 31k (getting 1, 3, 10 yr warranty) but no cashback. I wanted to buy Onida 1 ton interver split from flipkart in 21+1+2k for extdend warrnty =24k but it was not deliverable at my pincode. Other no 2 brands were costing 29-30k, so i opted no 1 brand in 31k from amazon with no cashback

The greenest gas is R290 not R32. It is available with Godrej Air conditioners only. The reason manufacturers use R32 is because it is kept royalty free by Daikin.

https://www.coolingpost.com/features/advantage-...

I got 2 units of the Godrej R290 1 ton inverter split in 2018 & even today they still run like as if they are new.

You seem to have got a large appliance during the wrong time as the lock down is caused a lot of service issue in different sectors.

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How much time ur ac take to reduce Temperature from 42°C to 24°C now a days??Please do mention ur ac brand and ton also.

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150_Days_No_Porn_Challenge wrote:

How much time ur ac take to reduce Temperature from 42°C to 24°C now a days??Please do mention ur ac brand and ton also.

20-30 min, three sided sun faced room.

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Also look for highest temp compressor support?? @worldindia2000

WTF is that i never heard of this before…i switched on my daikin 1.5 ton split inverter ac for the first time this season 10 days back in the afternoon and after about 20 mins outdoor unit cut off and then after another 5-10 mins the indoor unit shut off and the system led started blinking…after googling i was able to find out the error code which was F6 (Outdoor Refrigerant overcharged??) …i cleaned the filter and tried it again later that day at night and it ran fine for an hour and then i switched it off…..tried again the next day in the afternoon and the outdoor unit cut off again after 10-15 mins….the technicians finally showed up today after numerous calls and they checked the gas pressure and voltage and were totally stumped and left saying a senior technician is going to come tomorrow …the avg max temp has been hovering around 45 degrees this past week in delhi does that have anything to do with this problem and if so then what a bloody joke wink

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Professor1 wrote:

OGeneral ones are costlier but they are the best and even after 5 years they give the same level of cooling. and please dont go for invertor technology

OGeneral is a good option for heavy use/top floor. Worth the premium.

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worldindia2000 wrote:

Why to avoid inverter split technology? I purchased my 2nd inverter split ac laat week flushed

Many users are telling to avoid inverter type. Even service persons are saying the same

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cadence wrote:

OGeneral is a good option for heavy use/top floor. Worth the premium.

Hi can you tell me why ogenral ll outperform other ac companies, how it ll outperform other companies. What it’s technology. I hope you guys ll give me proper technical answer..
@Professor1 also tell me why you are saying don’t go for inverter technology. If you are giving a statement explain reasons behind it or i’ll think you are just bluffing.

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Hi can you tell me why ogenral ll outperform other ac companies, how it ll outperform other companies. What it’s technology. I hope you guys ll give me proper technical answer..
@Professor1 also tell me why you are saying don’t go for inverter technology. If you are giving a statement explain reasons behind it or i’ll think you are just bluffing.

OGeneral’s compressor cools room even when ambient temperature goes above 40-42 C. Companies like OGeneral & Mitsubishi are known to provide adequate cooling in extreme temperature. If you’re living in Bengaluru (milder summer) then Blue Star etc will also work well. Choice depends on ambient temperature, size of room & power costs. OGeneral is not renowned for power savings. Also companies like Blue Star may have more bells & whistles like more filters , better remote compared to OGeneral. Daikin is also good as noise is comparatively less.

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/618875/original/IMG_20200527_185914.jpg?1590609380

As this clock shows its pretty hot if AC is not switched on & my OGeneral AC does a reasonable job in cooling the room.

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Simbha3 wrote:

Hi can you tell me why ogenral ll outperform other ac companies, how it ll outperform other companies. What it’s technology. I hope you guys ll give me proper technical answer..
@Professor1 also tell me why you are saying don’t go for inverter technology. If you are giving a statement explain reasons behind it or i’ll think you are just bluffing.

I live in Delhi where temperature soars to 47-48 degrees, so ACs like Mitsubishi and OGeneral are the only effective ones with their superior cooling ability. and invertor technology is just a marketing gimmick to sell the same product at higher rates. costly spare parts are also a cause of concern. And brother I am not a technical expert in this field, just some “dhhakke khaya customer” who has finally learnt a lesson i.e. “sasta roye 100 baar Mehnga roye 1 baar” atleast in this case

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Professor1 wrote:

I live in Delhi where temperature soars to 47-48 degrees, so ACs like Mitsubishi and OGeneral are the only effective ones with their superior cooling ability. and invertor technology is just a marketing gimmick to sell the same product at higher rates. costly spare parts are also a cause of concern. And brother I am not a technical expert in this field, just some “dhhakke khaya customer” who has finally learnt a lesson i.e. “sasta roye 100 baar Mehnga roye 1 baar” atleast in this case

You don’t know what inverter technology is that’s why you are saying it’s a marketing gimmick.
If you pick ac with a tropical compressor it’ll cool. This is nothing to do with o genral or any brand.
If your o genral 1.5 ton ac cools your room other brands same specs ac ll cool too. Capacity and temperature is universal.. O genral 24°c won’t feel like 20°c nd O genral 1 ton ll cool same amount of air like any 1ton ac..
O general parts are better quality which ll give long life. But there is nothing magical that it ll give you better cooling.

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Professor1 wrote:

I live in Delhi where temperature soars to 47-48 degrees, so ACs like Mitsubishi and OGeneral are the only effective ones with their superior cooling ability. and invertor technology is just a marketing gimmick to sell the same product at higher rates. costly spare parts are also a cause of concern. And brother I am not a technical expert in this field, just some “dhhakke khaya customer” who has finally learnt a lesson i.e. “sasta roye 100 baar Mehnga roye 1 baar” atleast in this case

Inverter technology ones are not same as normal ones.

Non-Inverter models are binary i.e. On/Off

Inverter ones allow for varying load i.e. control the speed of compressor in case of ACs.

Advantage with Inverter ones is mainly less power consumption compared to non-inverter ones.

Main disadvantage(according to a company AC technician) with Inverter models is service cost.

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Simbha3 wrote:

You don’t know what inverter technology is that’s why you are saying it’s a marketing gimmick.
If you pick ac with a tropical compressor it’ll cool. This is nothing to do with o genral or any brand.
If your o genral 1.5 ton ac cools your room other brands same specs ac ll cool too. Capacity and temperature is universal.. O genral 24°c won’t feel like 20°c nd O genral 1 ton ll cool same amount of air like any 1ton ac..
O general parts are better quality which ll give long life. But there is nothing magical that it ll give you better cooling.

Bhai I fully understand the working of a Invertor Technology based ac which is a sensor based where the inverter tech controls the compressor speed and changes the temperature as required whereas non invertor ones do not have such characteristic. You dont need to make personal remarks as nowdays even if a person doesnt know anything he can always google/youtube etc.

what i told you above is my personal opinion, so dont bother yourself if you do not like .

IMO the main concern is its initial cost and availability of spare parts & a normal repairmen finds it difficlut when problem arises in an invertor one

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