Supreme Court may ban Whatsapp in India

Supreme Court may ban Whatsapp in India

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RTI activist moves SC for ban on WhatsApp in India

ON MAY 03, 2016

What many people around the globe termed as another great innovative update to WhatsApp by Facebook, did not seem to go down so well with RTI activist Sudhir Yadav. Sudhir Yadav, an RTI Activist from Gurgaon has filed a petition in Supreme Court of India, seeking a complete ban on Whatsapp. The petitioned was filed on the basis of the end-to-end encryption feature that WhatsApp recently launched across all platforms for its users.

According to sources, the man had requested the RTI office to know more about WhatsApp’s encryption policies. Once he was told that such information was not available with the RTI office, he decided to take matter into his own hands and decided to file a petition in the Supreme Court.

As per the RTI Request Registration number DOTEL/R/2016/50413, a copy of which is with us, Sudhir asked, “Kindly Provide me copy of the written permission given to WhatsApp Mobile messaging app for using the 256-bit key length encryption (or more than 40 bit key lengths) in chatting application.”

In return, he received a reply: “No such Information exist in this office.”

Why is he filing such a bizarre petition?

It will not sound so bizarre if you read what happened with Apple and the FBI regarding the terrorists phone in the USA. What was the issue then? Something that Sudhir fears can happen in India too. According to him, “they have decided to encrypt all messages exchanged on their platform; and in case any terrorist is chatting through Whatsapp and making plans to harm India, then Indian Police/Intelligence wont be able to read those messages, and take suitable action.”

In his petition, he has the following to say – “.. there are 115,792,089,237 ,316,195,423,570, 985,008,687,907 ,853,269,984,665 ,640,564,039,457 ,584, 007,913,129 ,639,935 possible combinations of keys to decrypt the (Whatsapp) message and to read it, which means that even if anyone have A hundred thousand super computers and each of those super computer can try a million billion keys every second, even then it will take trillions of trillions of trillions of years to decrypt a single message/document/call/video/image and then read it.”

Besides Whatsapp, the petitioner has also mentioned other messengers such as Hike, Secure Chat, LeuPost, Wicker me, Viber, Telegram etc which are using encrypted messaging, and causing ‘national threat’.

Is WhatsApp really breaking the law?

According to him, the app has broken 4 laws related to the Constitution of India :

“Section 5(2) of the Indian Telegraph Act, 1885, which grants the Government the power to order the interception of messages;”

“Rule 419A of the Indian Telegraph Rules, 1951, which lays down the procedural requirements which must be followed for telephone tapping to be legal;”

“Section 69 of the Information Technology Act, 2000, which deals with the power to issue directions for interception or monitoring or decryption of any information through any computer resource;”

“Information Technology (Directions for Interception or Monitoring or Decryption of Information) Rules, 2009.”

But how the SC reacts to this petition is to be seen.

FINAL COMMENT

While the series of events that took place in California between the FBI and Apple was a sad story for the US, it should not lead to what many have termed, “social paranoia”. Brazil, in attempt to curb privacy issues in their country, banned WhatsApp in their country for two whole days. These are extreme steps taken in a country where WhatsApp is the most used app and the second most used app is Facebook (father company for WhatsApp). Similarly in India, the app is used by more than half the country. If there is a flaw with the encryption policies, what should be done is to correct them. Not phase the whole app regardless of anything. The rest is upto the judiciary to decide.

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@Patel wrote:

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Hike is also in this list .

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@DealLooter0015 wrote:

@Patel wrote:

Hike use karenge https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif

Hike is also in this list .


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@Patel wrote:

@DealLooter0015 wrote:

@Patel wrote:

Hike use karenge https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif

Hike is also in this list .


DesiDime ka Chat use karenge https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_confused.gif

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@Patel wrote:

@DealLooter0015 wrote:

@Patel wrote:

Hike use karenge https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif

Hike is also in this list .


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i AM EXCITED, KAR DO BAN WHATSAPP KO WE have Indian Messaging App alternatives https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

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would be happy if something like this happen ?
this way all looters would be forced to move back to desu dime and we will get lotttttttttttts of loots and tricks and pes
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It’s hilarious how one segment cries over protection of their privacy and the other(or the very same hypocrites) spread concern over ‘too’ tight security on their apps where they share their personal details. Ask this guy what happens when there is no encryption and the data is served on the plate to be hacked and distributed(already softwares exit and freely available for reading the watsapp backup files) or when mass hysteria strikes over concerns government sneaking into people’s personal lives. Remember the JLaw scandal? Her extremely private pics were hacked and distributed online when a hacker found a weakness in security.

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@DealLooter0015 wrote:

@Patel wrote:

@DealLooter0015 wrote:

@Patel wrote:

Hike use karenge https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif

Hike is also in this list .


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let it ban, atleast for a few days…!! https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif
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"@katsumoto100":http://www.desidime.com/users/6259 wrote:

let it ban, atleast for a few days…!! https://cdn0.desidime.com/Placeholders/No-Image-Available.png
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thrifty sir Thrifty Saar Thrifty Sir,
for the moment if we can isolate the principal point from the set-up (who is doing it or why is it being done)

are you or are you not in favour of .. or are you sitting on the fence ? when it comes to security apparatus having the means to monitor ?
[again, i request you to isolate the set-up. lets for the moment forget that we are talking of the [QUOTE]Indian[/UNQUOTE] security agencies. who it would not be surprising if they turn a deaf hear to even an anti-national or anti-social coming and sitting on their lap and screaming i am a miscreant.]

so forget that it is India or xyz filed so and so plea citing such and such reason.

Principally, are you okay to a Black Behari Messenger or a notsapp messenger or any mode of communication be this secure that it can not be monitored into by any agency even in an unforeseen event ?

@thrifty_indian wrote: It’s hilarious how one segment cries over protection of their privacy and the other(or the very same hypocrites) spread concern over ‘too’ tight security on their apps where they share their personal details. Ask this guy what happens when there is no encryption and the data is served on the plate to be hacked and distributed(already softwares exit and freely available for reading the watsapp backup files) or when mass hysteria strikes over concerns government sneaking into people’s personal lives. Remember the JLaw scandal? Her extremely private pics were hacked and distributed online when a hacker found a weakness in security.

not to be pro or against all this mess Thrifty, but seriously brother

if it comes to saving pictures of your well toned body or close-ups of your genitals or bodily secretions
versus
letting the larger public have that itsy-bitsy chance of getting saved from havoc..

then i’d choose the latter.


no offence [if you DO take it, then kindly replace your with name of that 25 years old dame born on 15th Aug 1990].

#Privacy_Is_A_Myth

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Indian judicial system will take 10 years to decide.

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Sometimes I feel like you are a bot after reading your replies. Half of the things you write goea above my head. Take it lightly 💡
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@Spock wrote:

thrifty sir Thrifty Saar Thrifty Sir,
for the moment if we can isolate the principal point from the set-up (who is doing it or why is it being done)

are you or are you not in favour of .. or are you sitting on the fence ? when it comes to security apparatus having the means to monitor ?
[again, i request you to isolate the set-up. lets for the moment forget that we are talking of the [QUOTE]Indian[/UNQUOTE] security agencies. who it would not be surprising if they turn a deaf hear to even an anti-national or anti-social coming and sitting on their lap and screaming i am a miscreant.]

so forget that it is India or xyz filed so and so plea citing such and such reason.

Principally, are you okay to a Black Behari Messenger or a notsapp messenger or any mode of communication be this secure that it can not be monitored into by any agency even in an unforeseen event ?

@thrifty_indian wrote: It’s hilarious how one segment cries over protection of their privacy and the other(or the very same hypocrites) spread concern over ‘too’ tight security on their apps where they share their personal details. Ask this guy what happens when there is no encryption and the data is served on the plate to be hacked and distributed(already softwares exit and freely available for reading the watsapp backup files) or when mass hysteria strikes over concerns government sneaking into people’s personal lives. Remember the JLaw scandal? Her extremely private pics were hacked and distributed online when a hacker found a weakness in security.

not to be pro or against all this mess Thrifty, but seriously brother

if it comes to saving pictures of your well toned body or close-ups of your genitals or bodily secretions
versus
letting the larger public have that itsy-bitsy chance of getting saved from havoc..

then i’d choose the latter.


no offence [if you DO take it, then kindly replace your with name of that 25 years old dame born on 15th Aug 1990].

#Privacy_Is_A_Myth


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Sometimes I feel like you are a bot after reading your replies. Half of the things you write goea above my head. Take it lightly 💡
No offence . https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif
@Spock wrote:

thrifty sir Thrifty Saar Thrifty Sir,
for the moment if we can isolate the principal point from the set-up (who is doing it or why is it being done)

are you or are you not in favour of .. or are you sitting on the fence ? when it comes to security apparatus having the means to monitor ?
[again, i request you to isolate the set-up. lets for the moment forget that we are talking of the [QUOTE]Indian[/UNQUOTE] security agencies. who it would not be surprising if they turn a deaf hear to even an anti-national or anti-social coming and sitting on their lap and screaming i am a miscreant.]

so forget that it is India or xyz filed so and so plea citing such and such reason.

Principally, are you okay to a Black Behari Messenger or a notsapp messenger or any mode of communication be this secure that it can not be monitored into by any agency even in an unforeseen event ?

@thrifty_indian wrote: It’s hilarious how one segment cries over protection of their privacy and the other(or the very same hypocrites) spread concern over ‘too’ tight security on their apps where they share their personal details. Ask this guy what happens when there is no encryption and the data is served on the plate to be hacked and distributed(already softwares exit and freely available for reading the watsapp backup files) or when mass hysteria strikes over concerns government sneaking into people’s personal lives. Remember the JLaw scandal? Her extremely private pics were hacked and distributed online when a hacker found a weakness in security.

not to be pro or against all this mess Thrifty, but seriously brother

if it comes to saving pictures of your well toned body or close-ups of your genitals or bodily secretions
versus
letting the larger public have that itsy-bitsy chance of getting saved from havoc..

then i’d choose the latter.


no offence [if you DO take it, then kindly replace your with name of that 25 years old dame born on 15th Aug 1990].

#Privacy_Is_A_Myth



Same here

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@Spock
I don’t agree with your views:
1. If I take a shit and admire my creation and decide to take a picture of it to capture the moment for future reference. It’s none of anyone else business. It’s MY shit and MY picture.
2. Quoting you “if it comes to saving pictures of your well toned body or close-ups of your genitals or bodily secretions
versus
letting the larger public have that itsy-bitsy chance of getting saved from havoc..”

What ‘havoc’ are you really talking about? Does Indian agencies really have the tech to monitor every single Indian’s watsapp? And do they really that proactive? After a bomb blast or terrorist attack they claim there ‘had’ been a intelligence report(and they ate samosas on that paper)
3. If they want the key to the encryption then who has stopped them from acquiring it? Have they asked watsapp? This petitioner was more concerned than CBI? I am really confused whether to praise this guy or laugh at CBI’s incompetence.
4. An app or service should and must have good security for it’s data and channels. If gov wants to snoop in then they can ask the company for the key its fine but it’s not fine for letting your pervert colleague take a looksie in your private matters.

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@thrifty_indian wrote: 1. If I take a <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">shit and admire my creation and decide to take a picture of it to capture the moment for future reference. It’s none of anyone else business. It’s MY shit <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">and MY picture.<a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>">

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@thrifty_indian wrote: What ‘havoc’ are you really talking about? Does Indian agencies really have the tech to monitor every single Indian’s watsapp? And do they really that proactive? After a bomb blast or terrorist attack they claim there ‘had’ been a intelligence report(and they ate samosas on that paper)

I agree Thrifty, that things are not right. but like you said in the beginning, what JLaw (her pics) or what you do in your private life are ‘private’.. similarly it is in the nature of work and need of the security apparatus to do everything it can to ‘serve and protect’.

For this there might be need to blur the privacy lines

and to hand it to whatsapp. it is toeing the line on most of the Sovereign demands demands they get http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/37969/digit... they do or did share things and entertain requests.




Dada, I think i may not have got across and need to re-emphasise here:
that i request you to de-link with our desi situation nee desi-thulla, mama, police.. umm okay, what i meant is, say if you are in Sweden or a Norwegian national (low crime rates and efficient law enforcement .. i mean look up Sollentuna Prison https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif )
would then it be okay for security forces to get need based access ?

3. If they want the key to the encryption then who has stopped them from acquiring it? Have they asked watsapp? This petitioner was more concerned than CBI? I am really confused whether to praise this guy or laugh at CBI’s incompetence.
4. An app or service should and must have good security for it’s data and channels. If gov wants to snoop in then they can ask the company for the key its fine but it’s not fine for letting your pervert colleague take a looksie in your private matters.

i do not know the merits of the case Thrifty, to confess the reality.
and yet I also say this: that it is okay for courts (judges) to sometimes take suo-motu petitions (sometimes, merely based on unclear reports) or for people to take up a cause that otherwise has not been taken up or even highlighted.

I completely agree that the access to certain user’s data or even real time monitoring of the servers that pass these information could and should be pressed upon by authorities themselves too.
in the case of Blackberry, I think they had to host a server in our jurisdiction ultimately and get by with the Canadian alibi.

i have no personal stake in this silly app furore as I do not even use it, but i do think that if you know that I am an anti social or even a trouble-maker, then in that case if someone needs to check in into my activities, there ought to be a reasonable way to do so.

of-course, no one wants pervert colleague or neighbour or relative to have access to others private conversation. I do not see how that is related to this present issue of giving the agencies a way to look into problematic or suspected problematic accounts.

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@Spock wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote: 1. If I take a <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">shit and admire my creation and decide to take a picture of it to capture the moment for future reference. It’s none of anyone else business. It’s MY shit <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">and MY picture.<a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>">

@👍👍👍 sharing is caring! we don’t mind https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_biggrin.gif if you NSFH NSFW http://www.ratemypoo.com/besto...ml @👍👍👍

@thrifty_indian wrote: What ‘havoc’ are you really talking about? Does Indian agencies really have the tech to monitor every single Indian’s watsapp? And do they really that proactive? After a bomb blast or terrorist attack they claim there ‘had’ been a intelligence report(and they ate samosas on that paper)

I agree Thrifty, that things are not right. but like you said in the beginning, what JLaw (her pics) or what you do in your private life are ‘private’.. similarly it is in the nature of work and need of the security apparatus to do everything it can to ‘serve and protect’.

For this there might be need to blur the privacy lines

and to hand it to whatsapp. it is toeing the line on most of the Sovereign demands demands they get http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/37969/digit... they do or did share things and entertain requests.




Dada, I think i may not have got across and need to re-emphasise here:
that i request you to de-link with our desi situation nee desi-thulla, mama, police.. umm okay, what i meant is, say if you are in Sweden or a Norwegian national (low crime rates and efficient law enforcement .. i mean look up Sollentuna Prison https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif )
would then it be okay for security forces to get need based access ?

3. If they want the key to the encryption then who has stopped them from acquiring it? Have they asked watsapp? This petitioner was more concerned than CBI? I am really confused whether to praise this guy or laugh at CBI’s incompetence.
4. An app or service should and must have good security for it’s data and channels. If gov wants to snoop in then they can ask the company for the key its fine but it’s not fine for letting your pervert colleague take a looksie in your private matters.

i do not know the merits of the case Thrifty, to confess the reality.
and yet I also say this: that it is okay for courts (judges) to sometimes take suo-motu petitions (sometimes, merely based on unclear reports) or for people to take up a cause that otherwise has not been taken up or even highlighted.

I completely agree that the access to certain user’s data or even real time monitoring of the servers that pass these information could and should be pressed upon by authorities themselves too.
in the case of Blackberry, I think they had to host a server in our jurisdiction ultimately and get by with the Canadian alibi.

i have no personal stake in this silly app furore as I do not even use it, but i do think that if you know that I am an anti social or even a trouble-maker, then in that case if someone needs to check in into my activities, there ought to be a reasonable way to do so.

of-course, no one wants pervert colleague or neighbour or relative to have access to others private conversation. I do not see how that is related to this present issue of giving the agencies a way to look into problematic or suspected problematic accounts.


Har topic pe Essay kaisey likh lete ho aap? Bataao naa.. Mere ko Tuition chahiye!

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@Plato wrote:

@Spock wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote: 1. If I take a <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">shit and admire my creation and decide to take a picture of it to capture the moment for future reference. It’s none of anyone else business. It’s MY shit <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">and MY picture.<a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>">

@👍👍👍 sharing is caring! we don’t mind https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_biggrin.gif if you NSFH NSFW http://www.ratemypoo.com/besto...ml @👍👍👍

@thrifty_indian wrote: What ‘havoc’ are you really talking about? Does Indian agencies really have the tech to monitor every single Indian’s watsapp? And do they really that proactive? After a bomb blast or terrorist attack they claim there ‘had’ been a intelligence report(and they ate samosas on that paper)

I agree Thrifty, that things are not right. but like you said in the beginning, what JLaw (her pics) or what you do in your private life are ‘private’.. similarly it is in the nature of work and need of the security apparatus to do everything it can to ‘serve and protect’.

For this there might be need to blur the privacy lines

and to hand it to whatsapp. it is toeing the line on most of the Sovereign demands demands they get http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/37969/digit... they do or did share things and entertain requests.




Dada, I think i may not have got across and need to re-emphasise here:
that i request you to de-link with our desi situation nee desi-thulla, mama, police.. umm okay, what i meant is, say if you are in Sweden or a Norwegian national (low crime rates and efficient law enforcement .. i mean look up Sollentuna Prison https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif )
would then it be okay for security forces to get need based access ?

3. If they want the key to the encryption then who has stopped them from acquiring it? Have they asked watsapp? This petitioner was more concerned than CBI? I am really confused whether to praise this guy or laugh at CBI’s incompetence.
4. An app or service should and must have good security for it’s data and channels. If gov wants to snoop in then they can ask the company for the key its fine but it’s not fine for letting your pervert colleague take a looksie in your private matters.

i do not know the merits of the case Thrifty, to confess the reality.
and yet I also say this: that it is okay for courts (judges) to sometimes take suo-motu petitions (sometimes, merely based on unclear reports) or for people to take up a cause that otherwise has not been taken up or even highlighted.

I completely agree that the access to certain user’s data or even real time monitoring of the servers that pass these information could and should be pressed upon by authorities themselves too.
in the case of Blackberry, I think they had to host a server in our jurisdiction ultimately and get by with the Canadian alibi.

i have no personal stake in this silly app furore as I do not even use it, but i do think that if you know that I am an anti social or even a trouble-maker, then in that case if someone needs to check in into my activities, there ought to be a reasonable way to do so.

of-course, no one wants pervert colleague or neighbour or relative to have access to others private conversation. I do not see how that is related to this present issue of giving the agencies a way to look into problematic or suspected problematic accounts.


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@thrifty_indian wrote:

@Plato wrote:

@Spock wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote: 1. If I take a <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">shit and admire my creation and decide to take a picture of it to capture the moment for future reference. It’s none of anyone else business. It’s MY shit <a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“poo” border=“0”/>">and MY picture.<a href=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>"><img src=“http://cdn1.desidi...omhttps://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor..." alt=“love” border=“0”/>">

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@thrifty_indian wrote: What ‘havoc’ are you really talking about? Does Indian agencies really have the tech to monitor every single Indian’s watsapp? And do they really that proactive? After a bomb blast or terrorist attack they claim there ‘had’ been a intelligence report(and they ate samosas on that paper)

I agree Thrifty, that things are not right. but like you said in the beginning, what JLaw (her pics) or what you do in your private life are ‘private’.. similarly it is in the nature of work and need of the security apparatus to do everything it can to ‘serve and protect’.

For this there might be need to blur the privacy lines

and to hand it to whatsapp. it is toeing the line on most of the Sovereign demands demands they get http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/37969/digit... they do or did share things and entertain requests.




Dada, I think i may not have got across and need to re-emphasise here:
that i request you to de-link with our desi situation nee desi-thulla, mama, police.. umm okay, what i meant is, say if you are in Sweden or a Norwegian national (low crime rates and efficient law enforcement .. i mean look up Sollentuna Prison https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif )
would then it be okay for security forces to get need based access ?

3. If they want the key to the encryption then who has stopped them from acquiring it? Have they asked watsapp? This petitioner was more concerned than CBI? I am really confused whether to praise this guy or laugh at CBI’s incompetence.
4. An app or service should and must have good security for it’s data and channels. If gov wants to snoop in then they can ask the company for the key its fine but it’s not fine for letting your pervert colleague take a looksie in your private matters.

i do not know the merits of the case Thrifty, to confess the reality.
and yet I also say this: that it is okay for courts (judges) to sometimes take suo-motu petitions (sometimes, merely based on unclear reports) or for people to take up a cause that otherwise has not been taken up or even highlighted.

I completely agree that the access to certain user’s data or even real time monitoring of the servers that pass these information could and should be pressed upon by authorities themselves too.
in the case of Blackberry, I think they had to host a server in our jurisdiction ultimately and get by with the Canadian alibi.

i have no personal stake in this silly app furore as I do not even use it, but i do think that if you know that I am an anti social or even a trouble-maker, then in that case if someone needs to check in into my activities, there ought to be a reasonable way to do so.

of-course, no one wants pervert colleague or neighbour or relative to have access to others private conversation. I do not see how that is related to this present issue of giving the agencies a way to look into problematic or suspected problematic accounts.


Har topic pe Essay kaisey likh lete ho aap? Bataao naa.. Mere ko Tuition chahiye!

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