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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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shares -→ forget about them for the time being, the stock market will be range bound for the next couple of years. Whatever you do don’t fall for the “long term investment” advice at this point it won’t work. If you want to buy for long term investment that’s fine but now is not the time, wait for markets to tank in 2013 or 2014 and then buy. If you still want to buy for some compulsive reason allocate your capital into small chunks and buy an index fund on a regular basis like a monthly or quarterly basis for the next couple of years. But my advice is forget about shares for long term investment at this time, if you must buy shares then you should swing or day trade (if you can)

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Gold -→ This is an asset which is going much higher over the course of this decade. Accumulate it carefully (don’t over leverage yourself) and you’ll make a significant return on your money over the long term. Always better to buy physical gold over mf’s or etf’s. Actually silver is an even better investment, its 40% below its all time high where as gold is at its all time high plus silver is an element in the periodic table which will become extinct at some point. Its consumable and is used in over 3000 different ways from water purifiers to apparel. Only thing is its a highly manipulated market and has a standard deviation of 40% which makes it the most volatile traded asset on earth. It could have drawdown of 60% in this bull market, so you absolutely must buy physical and hold on if you buy commodities contracts and try to roll over at expiry you’ll be wiped out at some point during pullbacks. Gold is much more safer but silver will give a higher ROI than gold.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Property —→ now is the time to sell property not to buy property. We’re at all time highs in the real estate market and the world economy is on the brink of falling into recession. What does that tell you ?? Wait till 2013 or 2014 to buy property now is absolutely not the time to buy no matter what the estate agents tell you. They’ll tell you any shit just to get a commission, the higher the price the more money they make in their commission …… don’t believe what they tell you.
Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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>the world economy is on the brink of falling into recession.
https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif Oh god, not again. But what basis do you make these predictions on?

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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akashn wrote:

>the world economy is on the brink of falling into recession.
https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif Oh god, not again. But what basis do you make these predictions on?


easiest answer would be see this —> http://www.usdebtcloc...g/

Are you able to interpret those numbers ? if not rather than go into a lengthy explanation just wait and see

And btw “not again” ?? I don’t remember saying anything about this earlier and God really has nothing to do with it, its a result of quantitative easing as a proposed solution to too much debt in fiat currencies

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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LOL. “not again” in reference to the recession of ‘08. And I’m not really a believer god myself. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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as soon inflation starts to fall, you will see CRR and repo rates easing that is time to buy properties and new bull run will begin and i believe we will see sensex 50000 in our lifetime

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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akashn wrote:

LOL. “not again” in reference to the recession of ‘08. And I’m not really a believer god myself. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif


ah ok …haha …. I never paid much attention to the ’08 recession, that was just the warm up the main event is yet to come most likely next year maybe 2014. Reason in simple terms is the problems of ’08 was too much debt and too much spending and there solution was to print more money and bail out everyone who fcuked up, GM,Citibank whoever … so basically the theory is solve a problem of too much debt and spending with even more debt and spending, which is illogical at least to me. In 2008 the US debt was 8 trillion dollars so basically from the founding of the USA till 2008 it took some 230 odd years and all the policies of those collective US presidents to rack up 8 trillion dollars of debt ie right from George Washington to George Bush (junior) and then Obama in his four year term has single handedly managed to double it !! US national debt crossed 16 trillion dollars few days ago. How long do you think this can carry on, it surely cant reach 32 trillion in the next two or three years if it continues at this rate, they are already the most debt nation not only in the world today but the history of the world as we know it …. somethings got to give. Point no 2 …. the US dollar was backed by two things …. gold and the strong US economy. You could literally take your dollar bill go to the US govt and ask for the equivalent in silver but in 1971 Nixon severed that link so today the US dollar is backed by nothing and the US economy is no longer the strongest economy in the world its declining rapidly. So basically its just a piece of paper and people will soon realize that. The US has lost its credibility they are essentially bankrupt even many countries have signed agreements to pay each other in their own currencies when trading with each other. There iss a severe recession surely coming question is how will this affect India, well I’m not yet sure on that because we are definitely better off than the USA but once US tanks and Europe is in bad shape too its insane to think we wont be affected, EVERYONE will be affected Even in ’08 there was a recession in India primarily because the US markets tanked.
Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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can anyone who have knowledge of stock market give intraday and short term calls in this topic?

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Dumping Thread To Know

Who Trading In Stockmarket Intraday FNO ???

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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wolf wrote:

Dumping Thread To Know

Who Trading In Stockmarket Intraday FNO ???


Bhai intraday me mujhe loss ke ilava kuch nahi mila

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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I Am Trading Side By Side Not Much Intraday

Most OF Time Take Position In Options And In Future

Earning 20% Return Of My Money

But Lost Lots OF Money In PAst https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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wolf wrote:

Dumping Thread To Know

Who Trading In Stockmarket Intraday FNO ???


Yeps I am a full time trader.

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Lets Share Daily Trade Here If Anyone Want To To Participate https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

I Do Only F&O

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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can any one share tips??
im stuck in tcifinance since 1 yr.. 1500 @ 70, cant exit with such loss.. waiting..
any advice??
any intraday or short term delivery recommendation for loss recovery..

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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buy only if nifty comes between 5200-5500

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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asdf wrote:

can any one share tips??
im stuck in tcifinance since 1 yr.. 1500 @ 70, cant exit with such loss.. waiting..
any advice??
any intraday or short term delivery recommendation for loss recovery..


goodness you’ve lost half your investment !

why did you keep holding , didn’t you have a stop loss?

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Control Emotions+Stoploss + Money Management + 50% To 60% Sucess Ratio In Trades= Millionaire In Year https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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I dont know anything abt stock market, but above post abt controlling emotions, stoploss, money management is my basic to start with,,

By reading this whole thread for 1 continuous hour, I think Zerodha is somewhat better or religare is fine too..
Well I m not starting in near future, Will start when I would gain proper knowledge abt this world of money exchange.
Keep posting your views guys, I helps newbies like me,,, Thanks for sharing your experiences:-)

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Zerodha Is Best If You Trader I Am Using From 2 Years Never Got Any Type Of Problem

Without Knowledge Never Jump In Any Business In World Otherwise You Will End With Loser Mark On Your Head

Even Opening Tea Shop You Have To Know How To Make Good Tea https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

There Is One Line For Ppl Who Are In Stockmarket

" People Comes In Stockmarket With Money And Without Knowledge….But People Take Leave From Stockmarket With Knowledge And Without Money "
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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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trading is about psychology. a trader without greed and fear can make millions easily. one just has to see the market clearly and ignore all the news and event information for trading.

Deal Major Deal Major
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" People Comes In Stockmarket With Money And Without Knowledge….But People Take Leave From Stockmarket With Knowledge And Without Money "

i am living example for above line , lost around 80k in early 2010

i tried only intraday , that too for only few sessions .

lost money mainly bcz of angel they gave me 5Xwhat i deposited , i deposited 1lakh but i traded with 5lakh two/three bad days and one short selling ended up me in loss of around 80k .

one small tip from my side whoever new to intra day do it with your own money .

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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It takes atleast 2 years to get to know the markets. till then take small bets and with money you can afford to lose . do not trade in f&o before learning what and how does it functions. else you can be bankrupt sooner than you think.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Venkat wrote:

" People Comes In Stockmarket With Money And Without Knowledge….But People Take Leave From Stockmarket With Knowledge And Without Money "

i am living example for above line , lost around 80k in early 2010

i tried only intraday , that too for only few sessions .

lost money mainly bcz of angel they gave me 5Xwhat i deposited , i deposited 1lakh but i traded with 5lakh two/three bad days and one short selling ended up me in loss of around 80k .

one small tip from my side whoever new to intra day do it with your own money .


People make mistake in intraday like not putting stop loss or try to trade daily. this can result in faster depletion of wealth . market takes away money from non professionals and gives it to professionals. casual traders get maximum causalities.
If one is not sure of stop loss ie where to place it one should not trade at all. same for target.

Analyst Analyst
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asdf wrote:

can any one share tips??
im stuck in tcifinance since 1 yr.. 1500 @ 70, cant exit with such loss.. waiting..
any advice??
any intraday or short term delivery recommendation for loss recovery..


advice is stop trading on tips. there are 10 good shares out in market so stop followin 4990, just buy those 10 with confidence and you’ll never regret. dont worry about ups and downs, have a bigger, larger picture in mind. as for 10 companies, those will be that will make 2020 india. 2 from banks, 2 from infra, 2 from petro-chem, 2 from pharma and 2 from fmcg. all others won’t give the returns these will give in just 7 years from now, a bank gives double and these if bought in 10% ration each, will at-least give you 10 times combined. so it’s your wish to search for tips or multifold money in 7 years without any tensions. https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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marketdimer wrote:

asdf wrote:

can any one share tips??
im stuck in tcifinance since 1 yr.. 1500 @ 70, cant exit with such loss.. waiting..
any advice??
any intraday or short term delivery recommendation for loss recovery..


advice is stop trading on tips. there are 10 good shares out in market so stop followin 4990, just buy those 10 with confidence and you’ll never regret. dont worry about ups and downs, have a bigger, larger picture in mind. as for 10 companies, those will be that will make 2020 india. 2 from banks, 2 from infra, 2 from petro-chem, 2 from pharma and 2 from fmcg. all others won’t give the returns these will give in just 7 years from now, a bank gives double and these if bought in 10% ration each, will at-least give you 10 times combined. so it’s your wish to search for tips or multifold money in 7 years without any tensions. https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif


bro can you please suggest some for long term..

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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OMG, good to see so many traders here

i am an investor.. my 50% portfolio is in stocks 30 % in FD and 20% in precious metal.

am investing in stocks for more than 25 years…

have lost money all the scams.. the dot bubble…. during KP … reliance power.. but learnt…

I have put my surplus money in stocks with only a single view.. if the money is gone it will not bother me..

Guys there is no shortcut to earn money you need patience.

Will urge to one who are not investing in stocks do invest.. it will introduce you to world of corporate information… India needs investing from us to grow

Current stock purchased on 15 Mar: MCX @ 880

My watch list: M&M || Ranbaxy || karur Vysya

Analyst Analyst
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asdf bro, suggestions, advices, tips should highly be avoided. have you seen a doctor writing in a forum someone has cancer can you advice what treatment i should give or a thief asking ways to burglary online? to me, those who give tips to buy this and that and those who takes such tips are not suitable for share market as one is eyeing for your money getting salaries from big boys and another is donating money to big boys by own mistakes. have confidence in what you buy and keep stocks with long term. if you buy say sbi and icici in banks and God forbid icici goes bankrupt, it’ll benefit sbi and in long term horizon while 1 gave you full loss other gave you double triple returns. 3 or 4 out of 10 won’t give that 10 times which i said but rest 6-7 will. biggest mistake people do is thinking of overinght gains. if stocks markets were making people rich, every person on earth would have stopped doing work and started to gamble. just remember, wakt se pehle aur kismat se jyada kuch nahi milta. most guys come here only with kismat in mind and forgets wakt.

Coupon Lord Coupon Lord
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Nice to c this thread. I had been an investor for past 10 years and had some good & bad experiences in this field.

F&O & Margin are my fav, but IMO for a newbie it is better to invest in stocks for medium to long term.

Presently holding 8000 shares of Indiabulls power @ 10.20 & 1300 shares of LT finance holding @ av price of 73.50.

It will be a good thread to discuss market/F&O statergy.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I have exited almost all of my long term long positions (i’m just holding 1-2 and will exit that also by year end) and am busy accumulating long term short positions LEAP put options for 2015 expiry whenever i can get them.

i should add i am short gold and have been for some time, but will definitely reverse and go long gold at some point, gold/silver are the only assets I will be going long for the long term

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