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tu vish bhai
see bro for profit : in shares u need knowledge n need to stick to market everyday from 10 to 4….
in gold u need time….sometimes lots of time…
in property u need money to buy prop…..,
if u have money then acc. to me better option is prop. it will always give u profit….i mean in the city like delhi,
there are no chances of loss in it plus it also gives u income i.e. by way of rent !!
saranslach152 wrote:
see bro for profit : in shares u need knowledge n need to stick to market everyday from 10 to 4….
in gold u need time….sometimes lots of time…
in property u need money to buy prop…..,
if u have money then acc. to me better option is prop. it will always give u profit….i mean in the city like delhi,
there are no chances of loss in it plus it also gives u income i.e. by way of rent !!
Bro where r u from
Bro where r u from
delhi…..y ??
cancob wrote:chi321 wrote:jaigreat wrote:
THANKS CHI BRO, any tips to buy on dips for say 1 year hold time
paisa tumhara hai dost, tips ke bharose rahoge to sirf barbaad karoge.
kya yaar chi bhai mai barbaad kar raha hoon jai bhai ka paisa
LOl
chi321 wrote:
markets are in no trade zone ……..
Then “REAL” traders should find markets/instruments…. which are in tradable zone. 
DealSaint wrote:chi321 wrote:
markets are in no trade zone ……..Then “REAL” traders should find markets/instruments…. which are in tradable zone.
I feel currently market is a darling for the traders as we getting movements on both the side.
And traders make most money in the sideways kind of market only. 
chi321 wrote:
beg to differ on icicidirect as it’s one of the worst broker (worst is very small word for them). it’s charges are way to high, almost 500% what others charge (current market average is 2 to 5 paisa intraday and 10-25 deilvery whereas icici is charging 25 intraday and 75 delivery). it doesn’t have software like odin or nse’s now making trading too slow and of medieval age. whenever market fluctuates it’s system goes bonking and you can only curse your luck. there annual charges are double what market generally charges. they have charges on buying and selling mutual funds. it’s high time you should change your broker (you should have done 5 years ago)
there are much better options. current favourite is zerodha which is very low cost, most user freindly and one of the bestest customer care one can have. charges are unbelievable. trade as much as you want and pay only 20 bucks. lets assume you buy and sell reliance from icicidirect for 1 lac intraday. you end up paying 500 as brokerage plus 0.3% as taxes and charges. at zerodha you’ll be charged only 40 plus taxes and charges. if you bought 133 shares of reliance at 750 from icicidirect you have to sell them at 756 to cover only brokerage and anything above you sell will be your profit. had you have coosen zerodha your profits would have started from just 750.50 paisa!! so suppose you sold at 756 also on icicidirect you made nothing whereas at zerodha you made a cool 1000 bucks! that’s intraday for you. now in delivery zerodha has 0.1% or 20 whichever is lower. so if you buy 1 reliance for 750 you pay only .75 plus some taxes. at icicidirect charges would be 0.75% or 25 whichever is higher so on 750 you’ll be charged 775 plus taxes!
that’s just a comparision with zerodha, india’s biggest broker for traders at the moment. when other brokers are shutting down offices only zerodha is surviving with ample profits. and as i said it’s just comparision with zerodha. kotak, sharekhan, indiainfoline, geojit and indiabulls charges as low as 0.02% intrday and .2% delivery depending upon your bargain power and paying capacity. all these provide state of art platforms, very high speed softwares like odin or now or sharekhan’s own tradetiger. they seldom hangs unlike icicidirect. however difference between zerodha and these is zerodha has no clause attached while opening account or ever in future. everything is diclosed in advance and no extra paisa is charged other than specified hwoever other change policy after say 3 months, 6 months or upon your 1st plan (just like mobile plan where you get 1 paisa 2 second for 90 days and than 1.2 paisa per second). zerodha has most fans any broker can have on facebook, is highest talked about on india’s only and best investment forum traderji. however one can choose any broker he/she likes depending upon his/her needs from above given names. but for newcomer sake don’t term horribles like icicidirect, religare, rel cap or hdfc or sbicap as the best. i wonder why you choose the most expensive yet the worst service provider. guess you are unaware of chaged world.
+1 ICICI Direct is too costly . I had opened account 3 years back with them ,but i don’t use it.
can any 1 plz guide be about investing in gold etfs , which 1 to choose , i heard sum where that kotak is best choice plz share ur views
Goldbees is the best to invest in gold etfs. India is still not knowledged enough to deal in the etfs. In big ecomonies etfs are one of the drivers of price of shares/commodities. So if you decide to invest in lesser liquid etf and when you need to sell you won’t find attractive price and most such etfs that are traded very less can be manipluated. Today there was not even single trade on Canera rebecco gold etf and 6 etfs were traded for less than 10 lacs value. So 1st thing, buy goldbess which covers almost 95% of daily volume traded.
thanks chi bro can u also plz suggest how much % of my portfolio shud go in to this
chi bhai is there any entry/exit load on gold etfs?
Depends upon your age and other factors like your goal, your dependends etc. a 30 year old with family of 4 should have atleast 20-25% in gold (15% real gold and 5-10% etf so you don’t worry about daily ups and downs), 15-20% in mutual funds, 20-25% in property, 15-20% in FDs, 10% in stocks and rest 10 as readily available cash. With this you should have a term insurance and health insurance too.
harshk wrote:
chi bhai is there any entry/exit load on gold etfs?
nah. only pay brokerage as per yur broker plan and demat’s annual charges.
btw chi bro wer ru frm?
chi321 wrote:
Goldbees is the best to invest in gold etfs.
guys don’t run blindly towards gold etfs !!!!!!
returns which it gave in last yr. won’t be sustainable every year…..
moreoverly traditionally ppl say that gold is best & safest investment , but it doesn’t imply anymore in current situation bcoz nowadays it’s totally in traders hand & abt it’s safety , if prices can double in 2 yr. , it can fall also with same speed…..
i personally feel gold prices will come down upto 20k/10 gm in future , though no specific timeframe….
A good opportunity for value hunter. one can accumulate 20-25% of investment in equity at current levels. 
chi321 wrote:
A good opportunity for value hunter. one can accumulate 20-25% of investment in equity at current levels.
market has further scope of correcting. so buying here will mean loss in short term.
amitinmumbai wrote:chi321 wrote:
A good opportunity for value hunter. one can accumulate 20-25% of investment in equity at current levels.
market has further scope of correcting. so buying here will mean loss in short term.
Equity is always a gamble, so trade wisely.
Only invest the money you have in Spare.
Good U turn by the markets. I had bought some 15k worth shares in the morning.
Ya the extension of GAAR provisions to FY14 maybe a game changer IMHO. Quite a few midcaps and small caps available at good valuations. Interesting good month and year ahead if one is long equities
ya thats very much true jackal bro , iam also buying on dips from last 15days for long term hold
i had bought few indusind bank, siemens and hero moto in morning. than i spent time on dd till 1 pm i guess before going to see a relative in hospital. at around 3 i checked on mobile nifty was trading above 30 odd points. i couldn’t believe. i checked bseindia and sensex was 86 points higher. although i’m buying for a longer term view still i’ll be selling today’s basket on handsome profits soon. these lucky u-turns are hard to catch and thumbrule is take all profits presnt on table without second thoughts.
now it’s good time to start accumulating good quality stocks in portfolio…..
i recently bought BHEL @ 209 & 199…..
& keeping close watch on EROS as now ipl is over & big budget films start coming….
Help a novice in investing right.
M a novice at this. Dont even have any idea as to what m even asking u guys ( So m sure u would have understood what level i m at)…. Help???
ME too dont have any idea..rather than desire to make sme quick buck…any help ,,
how to start??
where to start?
possible risks?
drjpatwa wrote:
now it’s good time to start accumulating good quality stocks in portfolio…..
i recently bought BHEL @ 209 & 199…..
& keeping close watch on EROS as now ipl is over & big budget films start coming….
did u exit or u still have bhel,i have this at very high price and now all are giving sell call,i am in huge loss:cry:
sukant1989 wrote:drjpatwa wrote:
now it’s good time to start accumulating good quality stocks in portfolio…..
i recently bought BHEL @ 209 & 199…..
& keeping close watch on EROS as now ipl is over & big budget films start coming….
did u exit or u still have bhel,i have this at very high price and now all are giving sell call,i am in huge loss:cry:
don’t listen to sooo called analysts !!!!!!! same guy will shout to buy share when it will 300+ !!!!!
i didn’t bought shares of BHEL for getting few bucks…. though it went to 235 recently i didn’t sold it , infact i m tracking it very closely to buy it again around 200…. it’s near it’s multiyear low price , it’s opportunity to buy not to sold ( by advise of some foolish ppl )
yaa , BHEL & all indian power equipment co. is facing pressure bcoz of chinese players , but recently gov. has made some anti-dumping duty on chinese imports…. yaa agree that in last 1 year BHEL got very less amount of new orders but still it has around 1.30 lac crore orders r pending !!!!!!!! ( & analysts r saying that it has order inflow worry 
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Looks like our markets going to tank again in the morning as the whole world is bleeding on the European fears yet again as the borrowing costs in Spain and Italy continue to rise. European markets ended today’s session on a loss of about 3% while US markets already down over 1.5%
In the absence of any local trigger our Markets may just follow the world and slide lower with negative bias.
Good time for traders for sure. I am holding nitfy’s 5300 put which I bought at an average of 70.50 currently at 109 also holding BPCL’ future where I am making loss.
Jai bro if you want to trade then use this dip which is about to come and get into the banking stocks my pick is ICICI bank in which you can enter around the levels of 840-845 for a 5-6% bounce back on the back of rate cuts which is round the corner.