Techies Please Suggest Between AMD FX-4300 VS Intel G3258

Please answer the below questions and i will suggest a config

1) Whats your intended use with the system. gaming, multitasking, Autocad etc etc?
2) From your post i understood that you bought a PSU too. Mention the model number and wattage of the same.

Thanks for your reply.

1) It will be for programming, multitasking, browsing and using multiple software’s
2) CORSAIR VS-450 CP-9020096-UK 450 Watts PSU

I was also going to buy Kingston 120 GB SSD but luckily read reviews on Flipkart then Anandtech and stopped myself SSD was good but they are cheating so please suggest regarding SSD too.

if you are looking for multitasking then both Pentium and Fx 4300 would not be wise choice. I would suggest you to up your budget by a couple of grands and buy Fx-6300 which is an amazing processor with 6 cores. Good motherboard would be gigabyte 970A-DS3p which supports 6 Sata 3 ports along with support upto 32 GB RAM.

Regarding SSD, i would suggest you to pick a used one from ebay. you should be able to grab an almost new drive for 2.5k. Please post your complete budget for all the components so that i can advice accordingly.

One week back i had to assemble a workstation for windows server 2012 and here is what i went for.

Amd 8320 8 core processor
Gigabyte 970A -Ds3p mobo
Kingston Hyperx 1866 Mhz 8 gb RAM
120 GB Intel SSD + 500 GB WD blue
Corsair Cx430.

I am ready to spend extra 3k but I read AMD life is low? Read somewhere AMD cause problems/heating and eat too much power.

I feel sad now, bought Corsair Value select 1600Mhz which are expensive then Kingston Hyperx 1866 Mhz
Item isn’t delivered but it’s from ebay so please suggest what to do.

I’ll have to skip SDD for now(or please suggest good from ebay, used ones are few hundreds less only but risk of warranty)

These comparisons are confusing me:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-F...00
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/295/AMD_FX-Ser...
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-...
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2217094/...

Single core performance of Pentium G3258 will be better than AMD Fx6300 because of better IPC on intel processors however for multitasking 6 cores of fx 6300 will really come handy and will be a better option any given day. AMD processors does consume more electricity then Intel however the difference is not huge as some people claim. Electricity bill difference between the pentium and the fx will not be more than 400 rupees per year. Processors are very reliable components and in all likelihood will be the last thing to fail in a computer system.

regarding heat, I have been been gaming( Battlefield 3 64 player multiplayer) on my new AMD workstation from last 3 hours and the max temp according to Hwmonitor is 53 degrees( usual range is 35-45c) which is not at all bad compared to my intel i3 2120 which used to push the temps around 65 degree mark during gaming. If you have no plans to do insane overclocking, stock cooler will do a good job.

If you really want go with intel config then considering your needs you need minimum of an i5 processor which will cost around 11-12k and a decent mobo should run you around 5k.

Incase you decide to buy AMD config, speak to ebay seller for a refund coz AMD Fx processors does support upto 2166 Mhz mem. Kingston Hyperx blu 8gb DDr3 1866 Mhz mem is 4100 rupees in nehru place market.

Best option would have been intel 530 SSD however the seller does not have it in stock anymore. Here is a link for intel 320 which is a very reliable SSD . only downside is sata 3.

http://www.ebay.in/itm/ssd-INTEL-SSD-160GB-HARD…

You can use OXigen2020 coupon and buy this for approx 2.7k.

smartnsh wrote:

I am ready to spend extra 3k but I read AMD life is low? Read somewhere AMD cause problems/heating and eat too much power.

I feel sad now, bought Corsair Value select 1600Mhz which are expensive then Kingston Hyperx 1866 Mhz
Item isn’t delivered but it’s from ebay so please suggest what to do.

I’ll have to skip SDD for now(or please suggest good from ebay, used ones are few hundreds less only but risk of warranty)


These comparisons are confusing me:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-F...00
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/295/AMD_FX-Ser...
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-...
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2217094/...

CPUboss benchmarks are of little practical value. Why? BecauseGeekbench. Its really no better than the obsolete Dhrystone.It includes encryption scores under integer benchmarks. As an
example the FX 4300 has hardware encryption(AES-NI in Intel speak) built in whereas the Pentium does nt. This results in a unfair boost to integer perf of the FX skewing the benchmarks in its favour somewhat. The same is also true of the A57 vs its contemporaries. However this does nt change the fact that the FX has somewhat higher multithreaded perf whereas the Pentiumis significantly faster in single threaded tasks.
Stick to AT, TR or Tom’s.

cybertechie wrote:

Incase you decide to buy AMD config, speak to ebay seller for a refund coz AMD Fx processors does support upto 2166 Mhz mem. Kingston Hyperx blu 8gb DDr3 1866 Mhz mem is 4100 rupees in nehru place market.

Bro I paid through Oxygen wallet Money will be blocked there if I ask for refund and the coupon may expire anytime soon. Is there any way to get quick refund for not dispatched item? Please help.

I am thinking to go AMD way.
Thanks.

Requested the seller to refund, don’t know what’s going to happen. Any seller can tell if it’s possible to refund for non shipped item and in transit item? I am worried about my money being blocked with Oxygen wallet. I will have to order new.

With AMD FX-6300 I will have to buy a graphics card that’s 6k more expense(3k for FX-6300 and Motherboard)
Please suggest a budget one.

One item is shipped for which seller is asking 500 rupees as courier and other tax For second item is he telling to ship different RAM. Don’t know what to do now.

If I go with FX-6300 then should I keep these and order 2 1833 Mhz RAM? Will it work?

smartnsh wrote:

Requested the seller to refund, don’t know what’s going to happen. Any seller can tell if it’s possible to refund for non shipped item and in transit item? I am worried about my money being blocked with Oxygen wallet. I will have to order new.

With AMD FX-6300 I will have to buy a graphics card that’s 6k more expense(3k for FX-6300 and Motherboard)
Please suggest a budget one.

One item is shipped for which seller is asking 500 rupees as courier and other tax For second item is he telling to ship different RAM. Don’t know what to do now.

If I go with FX-6300 then should I keep these and order 2 1833 Mhz RAM? Will it work?

Just a word of advice for you, before buying anything else (like you have in this case) do your research properly & only then go ahead with the purchase of other components.

If you give me a reasonable budget I can help you pick components since I virtually have the same setup with a g3258.

Thanks r0h11, please provide your configuration. I did researched a lot then went for Corsair value select but then techy bro suggest AMD 6300 FX so got confused.

Please help me pick components.

Bought 1 TB HDD, 2 X 4GB Corsair RAM 1600 Mhz, 450 W Corsair PSU.

Need suggestions.

I’ll need a proper budget (~xK rupees) for me to suggest anything properly.

As for my system it’s ~

g3258 @ 4.4Ghz & IGP @ 1.3GHz (bought locally)

16GB (4×4) DDR3 @ 1600MHz (brand new, through ebay)

2×256 GB RAID0 SSD (bought off ebay, laptop pulled but newish)

2TB HDD (reused)

ASROCK H97M PRO4 (bought locally)

This cost me upwards of 25K even after selling my old(er) computer parts, at a loss of course

This is because local sellers sell at a fairly high price & don’t much for your old stuff, also I got the parts last year when they were just launched in India at that time, so price premium for new stuff.

If you’re starting from scratch, all brand new stuff, with nothing to sell locally then you’ll have better luck choosing from a much wider range online & at a fairly low price.

smartnsh wrote:

Requested the seller to refund, don’t know what’s going to happen. Any seller can tell if it’s possible to refund for non shipped item and in transit item? I am worried about my money being blocked with Oxygen wallet. I will have to order new.

With AMD FX-6300 I will have to buy a graphics card that’s 6k more expense(3k for FX-6300 and Motherboard)
Please suggest a budget one.

One item is shipped for which seller is asking 500 rupees as courier and other tax For second item is he telling to ship different RAM. Don’t know what to do now.

If I go with FX-6300 then should I keep these and order 2 1833 Mhz RAM? Will it work?

Don’t pay the extra 500 just to get the refund. You can club 1600 Mhz and 1866 mhz RAM however the system will run on the lower frequency among the two ( 1600 Mhz). But i would suggest you not to pair ram’s from two different companies. It may not be having the exact specs. its always better to pair same model number of memory

Your initial choice was between G3258 and Fx4300 so i though you the graphics card factored in. If you are not planing to game now or in the future , why buy a 6k card? Like the above poster said, please post your complete budget. .

@OP: What’s your budget?

cybertechie wrote:

Your initial choice was between G3258 and Fx4300 so i though you the graphics card factored in. If you are not planing to game now or in the future , why buy a 6k card? Like the above poster said, please post your complete budget. .

Bro 6k is not for graphics card. I included extra 3500 cost for fx-6300 and mobo and 2000 approx for graphics card.

Budget is +/- 20,000 excluding monitor.

smartnsh wrote:
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Budget is +/- 20,000 excluding monitor.

My suggestions won’t be useful for your budget. But I will say this: the single best investment you can make in your system is an SSD. Get a used one from eBay as cybertechie has suggested. Good luck!

@DealSeeker bro please go ahead with your suggestions. I am open for better suggestions.

If u go with this MB u wont need an external GPU Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Its Socket AM3+ and HD 3000 IGP built in.
www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga-78lmt-usb3-motherb…

@OP U would be better served if u post this on any site devoted to tech enthusiasts like Digit/Techenclave etc. Here u will get some good advise(like all the above posts) but a lot of uniformed crap as well. And u should hv posted all this bf buying the various components. And plz post ur budget , whether u plan to game or not etc.

Dr Sir, I don’t plan on gaming. Only programming and browsing(multiple tabs simultaneously) Visual Studio .net, Eclipse etc. I thought G3258 was enough with 8 Gigs of 1600 Mhz ram and 120 GB SSD, 1TB WD Blue, corsair 450W PSU ….

Power consumption is also what I am concerned about. Don’t know how much power overclocked G3258 will consume. Like Cyber bro said about AMD that it’s only 400 Rs extra per year if that’s true then I am okay with

Hats off to cyber bro, GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P looks awesome to me.

smartnsh wrote:

cybertechie wrote:

Your initial choice was between G3258 and Fx4300 so i though you the graphics card factored in. If you are not planing to game now or in the future , why buy a 6k card? Like the above poster said, please post your complete budget. .

Bro 6k is not for graphics card. I included extra 3500 cost for fx-6300 and mobo and 2000 approx for graphics card.

Budget is +/- 20,000 excluding monitor.

r0h1t wrote:
Will you clarify whether this is your total budget, including all the things you’ve purchased till now OR something over & above what you’ve spent till now?

Total budget of CPU including bought items, I can increase a little bit if it’s better for long run.

Pentium should really be enough for ur needs. Unless u plan to work simultaneously in Visual Studio and Eclipse!
But if u want to throw video encoding in the mix then FX 6300 wins. But do note the Pentium has Quicksync support which is way faster in video encoding at the cost of quality. Plus now its supported in Handbrake. For web browsing amount of RAM is of paramount importance. Many web browsers are still not multithreaded. But plz dont blindly assume that u will be able to OC heavily either the Pentium or FX for reasons explained above.

Here is the Digits pc buying guide from Q1 2015. It has some excellent configs for various budgets. Select one as per your budget and post doubts here in-case if you have any.

http://www.digit.in/forum/pc-components-configu…

Dr Anshuman wrote:
@OP U would be better served if u post this on any site devoted to tech enthusiasts like Digit/Techenclave etc. Here u will get some good advise(like all the above posts) but a lot of uniformed crap as well. And u should hv posted all this bf buying the various components. And plz post ur budget , whether u plan to game or not etc.

+1

Just try not to hurt anybody’s ego there and try to separate the wheat from the chaff. Such sites are full of testosterone-fueled teenagers who have nothing better to do than to get into ego tussles. I used to be active on ThinkDigit forums during 2004-2006, but decided to stop participating for that reason. Perhaps things have gotten better now.

DealSeeker wrote:

Dr Anshuman wrote:
@OP U would be better served if u post this on any site devoted to tech enthusiasts like Digit/Techenclave etc. Here u will get some good advise(like all the above posts) but a lot of uniformed crap as well. And u should hv posted all this bf buying the various components. And plz post ur budget , whether u plan to game or not etc.

+1

Just try not to hurt anybody’s ego there and try to separate the wheat from the chaff. Such sites are full of testosterone-fueled teenagers who have nothing better to do than to get into ego tussles. I used to be active on ThinkDigit forums during 2004-2006, but decided to stop participating for that reason. Perhaps things have gotten better now.

Its much better now. They don’t call it ‘Thinkdigit’ anymore. Its Digit forums now. For basic stuff Thinkdigit is good however it does not have enough members with in-depth technical knowledge for complex advice. I prefer too stick to Tomshardware forums especially for topics on Servers and virtualization. .

smartnsh wrote:

r0h1t wrote:
Will you clarify whether this is your total budget, including all the things you’ve purchased till now OR something over & above what you’ve spent till now?

Total budget of CPU including bought items, I can increase a little bit if it’s better for long run.

If you want to keep the G3258 then you will have to overclock it eventually, again depending on how long you want to keep the same system I’ll recommend the H97 mobos OR Z97 (if you want to keep it for long) ones & then suggest the system memory (RAM) & storage accordingly.

I’m not sure how much you’ve spent till now but first make sure you know what you want, for instance if you download a lot of stuff then you will need an HDD for sure.

After you’ve decided whether you want to keep the g3258 (or not) you can then choose other components appropriately.

Dr Anshuman wrote:

Pentium should really be enough for ur needs. Unless u plan to work simultaneously in Visual Studio and Eclipse!
But if u want to throw video encoding in the mix then FX 6300 wins. But do note the Pentium has Quicksync support which is way faster in video encoding at the cost of quality. Plus now its supported in Handbrake. For web browsing amount of RAM is of paramount importance. Many web browsers are still not multithreaded. But plz dont blindly assume that u will be able to OC heavily either the Pentium or FX for reasons explained above.

Both VS and Eclipse especially Eclipse is heavily multi-threaded. Even a 4.5Ghz overclocked Pentium will hit 100% CPU usage more often that not while running an eclipse project. I believe and i5 or eve i3 with hyper-threading will be a better option anyday than pentium for VS & Eclipse.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vis…

As per Tom’s review AMD 8350 is almost there with intel i7 3770 in most of the productivity apps including visual studio. Its even faster than the expensive i5 3570k in Visual studio benchmark. Amd fx6300 should be close to an i5 if not better in heavily multi-threaded apps. Pentium will struggle to keep up with 6 core AMD in those situations.

cybertechie wrote:

Dr Anshuman wrote:

Pentium should really be enough for ur needs. Unless u plan to work simultaneously in Visual Studio and Eclipse!
But if u want to throw video encoding in the mix then FX 6300 wins. But do note the Pentium has Quicksync support which is way faster in video encoding at the cost of quality. Plus now its supported in Handbrake. For web browsing amount of RAM is of paramount importance. Many web browsers are still not multithreaded. But plz dont blindly assume that u will be able to OC heavily either the Pentium or FX for reasons explained above.

Both VS and Eclipse especially Eclipse is heavily multi-threaded. Even a 4.5Ghz overclocked Pentium will hit 100% CPU usage more often that not while running an eclipse project. I believe and i5 or eve i3 with hyper-threading will be a better option anyday than pentium for VS & Eclipse.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vis...

As per Tom’s review AMD 8350 is almost there with intel i7 3770 in most of the productivity apps including visual studio. Its even faster than the expensive i5 3570k in Visual studio benchmark. Amd fx6300 should be close to an i5 if not better in heavily multi-threaded apps. Pentium will struggle to keep up with 6 core AMD in those situations.

For casual stuff ~20K is fine atm