Asus X541UV-XO029D 15.6-inch Laptop (Core i5-6198DU/4GB/1TB/DOS/2GB Graphics), BLACK
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2.3GHz Intel Core i5-6198DU processor
4GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
15.6-inch screen, Nvidia GeForce 920MX 2GB Graphics
DOS
2kg laptop
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2.3GHz Intel Core i5-6198DU processor
4GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
15.6-inch screen,
Nvidia GeForce 920MX
2GB Graphics
DOS
2kg laptop
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@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
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@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
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To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
Budget is little tight with previous purchases… Can you provide me some options in i3 processsor for Dell/Asus?
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
Budget is little tight with previous purchases… Can you provide me some options in i3 processsor for Dell/Asus?
Search…one AMD A8 laptop for 23k and same for i3 was posted here.
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
Budget is little tight with previous purchases… Can you provide me some options in i3 processsor for Dell/Asus?
Search…one AMD A8 laptop for 23k and same for i3 was posted here.
Is this the one?
https://www.flipkart.com/hp-apu-quad-core-a8-4-...
and
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
Budget is little tight with previous purchases… Can you provide me some options in i3 processsor for Dell/Asus?
Search…one AMD A8 laptop for 23k and same for i3 was posted here.
Is this the one?
https://www.flipkart.com/hp-apu-quad-core-a8-4-...
and
https://www.flipkart.com/asus-apu-quad-core-a8-...
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
Budget is little tight with previous purchases… Can you provide me some options in i3 processsor for Dell/Asus?
Search…one AMD A8 laptop for 23k and same for i3 was posted here.
Is this the one?
https://www.flipkart.com/hp-apu-quad-core-a8-4-...
and
https://www.flipkart.com/asus-apu-quad-core-a8-...
Thanks a lot… KG to you.
Bro I just bought this at 23k, 2k instant discount from CitiBank card
2.5GHz AMD A8-7410 processor
8GB DDR3L RAM
1TB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive
15.6-inch screen, AMD R16M-M1-30 2GB Graphics
DOS
https://www.snapdeal.com/product/lenovo-ideapad...
If it helps
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
Guys hows this laptop, please advise
@thrifty_indian
Acer Aspire R3 Pentium Quad Core – (4 GB/500 GB HDD/Windows 10 Home) NX.G0YSI.007 R3-131T 2 in 1 Laptop
http://dl.flipkart.com/dl/acer-aspire-r3-pentiu...
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
@singh2189 wrote:
Guys hows this laptop, please advise
@thrifty_indianAcer Aspire R3 Pentium Quad Core – (4 GB/500 GB HDD/Windows 10 Home) NX.G0YSI.007 R3-131T 2 in 1 Laptop
http://dl.flipkart.com/dl/acer-aspire-r3-pentiu...
DOn’t buy Pentium quad-core.
Go for it
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.
P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.
A8 series includes both the high perf. Kaveri and later parts(equivalent in perf to the Core i3) based on Bulldozer architecture variants and low perf. Beema/Mullins parts. A8-7410 is a case of the latter. Thats what I was trying to clarify. AMD has done its best to confuse the consumer. So does Intel. If it had Kaveri part it would have been a great deal. Now its merely a good deal. Just wanted to do my bit for the community by clearing up certain things so that people expecting better than Core i3 perf. based on the quad cores would not feel dissapointed. Rest, all your points are valid ofc.
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.
About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Spot on. Haswell was a big step back in case of notebook CPUs. I dont want the wimpy 15W parts. Give me 35/45W ones. Thanks to improvements in process tech it would be feasible to build a sub-30W Quad core but why would they when they can get away with charging a huge premium for their wimpy dual cores?
AMD has always been the better choice for value-conscious buyers. OEMs have not done AMD any favours by saddling AMD machines with worse component choices than Intel offerings. Sadly its not as well known thanks to Intel marketing machine and consumer ignorance. Cautiously optimistic about Zen! 7k for a dual core CPU in 2016? If AMD had been more competitive we would have quad cores below 10k much earlier.
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Spot on. Haswell was a big step back in case of notebook CPUs. I dont want the wimpy 15W parts. Give me 35/45W ones. Thanks to improvements in process tech it would be feasible to build a sub-30W Quad core but why would they when they can get away with charging a huge premium for their wimpy dual cores?
AMD has always been the better choice for value-conscious buyers. OEMs have not done AMD any favours by saddling AMD machines with worse component choices than Intel offerings. Sadly its not as well known thanks to Intel marketing machine and consumer ignorance. Cautiously optimistic about Zen! 7k for a dual core CPU in 2016? If AMD had been more competitive we would have quad cores below 10k much earlier.
Suggest me one, I just browse internet and watch movies.
Budget 20-25k. I can wait for one week max.
@saymyname wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Spot on. Haswell was a big step back in case of notebook CPUs. I dont want the wimpy 15W parts. Give me 35/45W ones. Thanks to improvements in process tech it would be feasible to build a sub-30W Quad core but why would they when they can get away with charging a huge premium for their wimpy dual cores?
AMD has always been the better choice for value-conscious buyers. OEMs have not done AMD any favours by saddling AMD machines with worse component choices than Intel offerings. Sadly its not as well known thanks to Intel marketing machine and consumer ignorance. Cautiously optimistic about Zen! 7k for a dual core CPU in 2016? If AMD had been more competitive we would have quad cores below 10k much earlier.
Suggest me one, I just browse internet and watch movies.
Budget 20-25k. I can wait for one week max.
Laptops in Rs 20-25k range are pretty much the same from almost all manufacturers. Dell charges a small premium. Aftersales service ought to be the deciding factor. They are characterised by dubious build quality,poor quality components, sub-par displays and ordinary battery life. Only the performance is satisfactory. Fujitsu has an offering in this range that supposedly delivers good build quality but display is not upto the mark. Something around Rs 35-40k
will get you superior build quality,better quality components and probably better display and battery life and rarely even a discrete GPU frequently of questionable value though . They should also last longer thereby compensating somewhat for their higher upfront cost. HP offers a 1080p display for around Rs 38k. So does Asus. Whichever laptop you end up getting do make sure to splurge for the longest extended warranty package available. Plus extra RAM and an SSD upgrade go a long way in making even the worst system more usable. Do try to check out the laptops offline before buying them online in case price difference is substantial. Sorry I could not make any specific suggestions.
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@saymyname wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Spot on. Haswell was a big step back in case of notebook CPUs. I dont want the wimpy 15W parts. Give me 35/45W ones. Thanks to improvements in process tech it would be feasible to build a sub-30W Quad core but why would they when they can get away with charging a huge premium for their wimpy dual cores?
AMD has always been the better choice for value-conscious buyers. OEMs have not done AMD any favours by saddling AMD machines with worse component choices than Intel offerings. Sadly its not as well known thanks to Intel marketing machine and consumer ignorance. Cautiously optimistic about Zen! 7k for a dual core CPU in 2016? If AMD had been more competitive we would have quad cores below 10k much earlier.
Suggest me one, I just browse internet and watch movies.
Budget 20-25k. I can wait for one week max.
Laptops in Rs 20-25k range are pretty much the same from almost all manufacturers. Dell charges a small premium. Aftersales service ought to be the deciding factor. They are characterised by dubious build quality,poor quality components, sub-par displays and ordinary battery life. Only the performance is satisfactory. Fujitsu has an offering in this range that supposedly delivers good build quality but display is not upto the mark. Something around Rs 35-40k
will get you superior build quality,better quality components and probably better display and battery life and rarely even a discrete GPU frequently of questionable value though . They should also last longer thereby compensating somewhat for their higher upfront cost. HP offers a 1080p display for around Rs 38k. So does Asus. Whichever laptop you end up getting do make sure to splurge for the longest extended warranty package available. Plus extra RAM and an SSD upgrade go a long way in making even the worst system more usable. Do try to check out the laptops offline before buying them online in case price difference is substantial. Sorry I could not make any specific suggestions.
Won’t go for that range this time. Can compromise on display, but Fujitsu after sales is bad I think. Dell, Asus seem to be good, are you suggesting to buy an extended warranty??
@saymyname wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@saymyname wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@abcwevr762 wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:
@avgn wrote:
@thrifty_indian wrote:Yo the deal is
@gambitrite wrote:
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?
Go for it. Good deal.
thrifty_indian
approved
To remind you that the ‘U’ at the end of the processor names are all dual core but in this price range you won’t get quad core ones. Performance will be good, not to worry.
The “quad core” ones that are available in the price range Rs 20-25k are all Intel Atom class CPUs i.e. low power, low performance. Their single-threaded perf is actually lower than the ancient Core 2 Duo on a per-clock basis. Obviously they are far slower than any Core i3 NVM mind Core i5. Quad Core Intel CPU equipped systems cost atleast Rs 70k, The Asus laptop is equipped with AMD A8-7410 based on Carizzo-L which is AMD’s competitor to Intel Atom. It does not compare favourably to Core i3 in raw perf NVM rubbish synthetic benchmarks performed by third-rate websites. Its like mid-range Octa-core SoC vs Apple’s mere dual cores which still decimates the former. Core count is meaningless if they are not in the same league performance-wise.
I know, thank you for the copy-paste.
You think this is copy-paste? Why dont you do a Google search and see if it turns up any results? It took me over 5 minutes to compose and type this. Nice way to demean my efforts. You still have not updated your information! We had this debate much earlier! That also concerned an Asus.
Edit- A8-7410 has a single-channel 64-bit memory controller. This should give ample idea about its performance aspirations. The underwhelming GPU will be further starved for memory bandwidth adversely affecting perf.
I am not demeaning your effort, I am short on time and can’t argue at length.
1.Yes, the newer cores exceed A-8’s performance.
2. GPU is underwhelming in comparison to Intel’s.
3. In real world application ‘for a normal user’ doesn’t matter.
4. The AMD is capable of handling anything thrown at it except hardcore gaming but at this budget both are not recommended for heavy gaming or graphics.
5. The ultra-power saving processors ‘U’ are not upto what they really trying to sell either.
6. The person who asked for the suggestion is on tight budget. The A8 is selling for Intel’s celeron equivalent price. So compare with that.P.S> I don’t remember having any debate with you. Can you remind me when?
In an earlier avatar! A very friendly one at that unlike today which is faintly acrimonious.
I am sorry if you feel that way. My mind is restless right now, too much pending work.About the laptop, all the companies have been duping Indian customers since advent of time. It’s really hard to find a laptop in 40-55k range that has Intel-M/Q processors unlike their US portfolio where the ‘U’ variant are used only on ultra-portable laptops coz that’s what it was made for, saving power on compromising performance. But here they use it on all full sized laptops coz the users don’t have any idea about the cores or variants. Same goes with AMD ones. But if you look at price-performance scenario A8-7410 is more VFM than it’s intel countepart. Though, sometimes a previous generation i3 drops in 23k range.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Spot on. Haswell was a big step back in case of notebook CPUs. I dont want the wimpy 15W parts. Give me 35/45W ones. Thanks to improvements in process tech it would be feasible to build a sub-30W Quad core but why would they when they can get away with charging a huge premium for their wimpy dual cores?
AMD has always been the better choice for value-conscious buyers. OEMs have not done AMD any favours by saddling AMD machines with worse component choices than Intel offerings. Sadly its not as well known thanks to Intel marketing machine and consumer ignorance. Cautiously optimistic about Zen! 7k for a dual core CPU in 2016? If AMD had been more competitive we would have quad cores below 10k much earlier.
Suggest me one, I just browse internet and watch movies.
Budget 20-25k. I can wait for one week max.
Laptops in Rs 20-25k range are pretty much the same from almost all manufacturers. Dell charges a small premium. Aftersales service ought to be the deciding factor. They are characterised by dubious build quality,poor quality components, sub-par displays and ordinary battery life. Only the performance is satisfactory. Fujitsu has an offering in this range that supposedly delivers good build quality but display is not upto the mark. Something around Rs 35-40k
will get you superior build quality,better quality components and probably better display and battery life and rarely even a discrete GPU frequently of questionable value though . They should also last longer thereby compensating somewhat for their higher upfront cost. HP offers a 1080p display for around Rs 38k. So does Asus. Whichever laptop you end up getting do make sure to splurge for the longest extended warranty package available. Plus extra RAM and an SSD upgrade go a long way in making even the worst system more usable. Do try to check out the laptops offline before buying them online in case price difference is substantial. Sorry I could not make any specific suggestions.
Won’t go for that range this time. Can compromise on display, but Fujitsu after sales is bad I think. Dell, Asus seem to be good, are you suggesting to buy an extended warranty??
HP apparently has the largest network of service centers across India… It seems Dell has physical presence only in the big cities. For all else you have to contact their Customer Care. They charge Rs 1500 for onsite service when out of warranty. But the quality of their service is
really good.
And yes getting the extended warranty coverage is highly recommended as long as its no more than 10-15% of the device cost. Dell’s XPS Premier service packs were very expensive IIRC, 16% for 1 year extra warranty!
@thrifty_indian Your opinion about this laptop? I am looking for a Dell or Asus Laptop in the budget range of 25,000rs to 30,000rs. Can you provide some options as to which is best or any good deal?