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Amex card number stolen issue

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I recently changed a new Amex card before a month as my previous card was not machine readable. I was especially using that in Aliexpress , Airtel money, Udio, Citrus, Kites and paytm. Though i dont doubt on Airtel money and paytm because i did not store my cards there, however i stored my card on aliexpress as i order so many things there.

Today i received a SMS from Amex that my card was used in uber for pre-authorization for $1 twice. After 2 minutes i got another sms that my card amount of $8500 was not approved as it exceeded the credit limit.

Immediately I reported the issue to amex who reversed the $2 ($1+$1) on uber and blocked my card. I was literally annoyed with this issue though its a small amount, what would have happened if it was a large sum of money within my credit limit.

I advise friends not to store cards anywhere in online platform as hackers are everywhere to steal the data.

Note: I never used my card for offline transactions. I also reported this issue to Aliexpress security team through email who said that they will investigate this further.

Further Update: I see this is something to do with our indian wallets such as Mobikwik, Airtel money, Kites, UDIO and citrus wallet. Further updates awaited.

Update 2: American Express CC told me that all the charges done on Uber are reversed and they are hearing this issue from so many customers. 4th attempt of $250 was attempted on my card but it was blocked by that time.

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Deal Major Deal Major
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This Amex thing happened with me just yesterday..
To hell with Fking croocks and retards because of whom I had to take mental stress

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I feel this is something to do with udio and citrus wallet. Because now I can remember that I stored my card in mobikwik, citrus and udio

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Pro Entertainer Pro Entertainer
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@deals44u thanks for sharing this with us bro and thanks ds for tagging me https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

Perfectionist Perfectionist
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Channel Alert
Warning: Hacking alert. Delete your saved Amex cards from Indian wallets!


Additional details: Hackers are apparently targeting Amex cards that were stolen from some Indian wallets like Udio and Citrus. See the posts above.

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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I guess it is not through some website but completely random since amex doesn’t have a two factor/otp authentication I guess?

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Thank God!!! Amex declined me to offer a CC.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Ha Ha https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif Enjoyment & fun in this situation too https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

Anyways By looking at your display pic now i know why they did not offer you Amex card https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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I do delete the card as well except in case of citrus where I didn’t find option to delete in the app.

Anyone who has done it successfully?

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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You can do it in website bro and I have deleted it successfully.

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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My one HDFC and one CITI CC were also misused..From both the cards Amazon Prime was purchased and $10.99 deducted from both the cards in 2 subsequent months…Later I blocked my both CCs..

Hunk Hunk
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Samething happen to my icici debit card, later i got the refund. Just log into Amazon.com from ur Amazon.in credentials then u can see the Amazon prime subscription. Contact Amazon.com customer care to cancel prime then they will refund fully

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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only on amex card this issue happens
visa,mastercard,me bhi hai kya ?
plz help

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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As of now , we have reported on Amex. Better to be safe on other variants too. Please delete all your stored cards in all the wallets.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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debit card ya credit card hack happens

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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only credit card hacking ya debit card also hacking
plz tell debit also hacking ?

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Bro its not about debit or credit. Better delete it to be on safer side.

Pro DealBaba Pro DealBaba
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How to delete cards from mobikwik… i couldn’t find any option for the same… any help is appreciated. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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You can login to website to delete the cards.

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I am deleting my card details from all e-commerce websites. Not safe anymore, today AMEX next time it will be VISA, Mastercard or Rupay. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Exactly bro. But its difficult for ppl who used Multi accounts as they need to login to each and every account to delete it.

I logged in and deleted all my stored cards.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Fortunately my transaction failed in udio with Amex card. I tried multiple times and then lost hopes, that it’s​ not going to work.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Udio stopped accepting amex cards from the recent update and earlier it blocked some amex cards.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Latest update on the main post

Analyst Analyst
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I guess the issue is not with any Wallet but with Amex itself

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Are you sure bro since my other Amex friends who do not use any wallets did not report this issue.

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Deal Captain Deal Captain
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But only limited amount of cards (Indian) work without 2FA authentication and Amex being the most commonly used card for international transactions is being targeted,but what does it have to do with the cards getting stolen from mobile wallets. Why can’t they just brute force the card number since there is no authentication at all.

Perfectionist Perfectionist
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Bro, I haven’t come across ANY Indian credit card which allows forex transactions but does NOT work without 2FA on foreign sites.

As for brute forcing, they do need the expiry as well as the CVV to perform transactions. It’s an obvious security breach at some site/wallet. Let’s just wait for announcements in a couple of days.

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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What i’m saying now read carefully.
Your card are secured & stored in Indian Wallets securely & no one can even extract it.
And if you are talking about Credit card hacking. Did you ever tried your CC for money withdrawal? {OP- Tell me did u done money withdrawal}
And one more point there are person involved in Hacking .
And the problem lies with Aliexpress, they are surely a looter & don’t use any Heavy amount money card there.
Case doesn’t bind to those type. Recently during monthly payout of employee of several comapnies, most bank account hacked & their montly payout went away – BOI account holder mostly & some other banks A/C holders salary person

And one thing i don’t understand why international site don’t have OTP verification.

Pro Entertainer Pro Entertainer
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LOL ROFL LMAO LMFAO OMG someone stop me https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif
How can you be so sure that our card details are safe & stored securely in Indian wallets ?

Few months back there was a glitch, your email id is enough to get card details from citrus, I posted that as a comment on a D&D thread and removed within few mins
@DealSeeker remember that citrus bug ? https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_cool.gif

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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See this
Zomato accounts ’hacked 😱😱😱😱

Please Visit
http://ddime....bi

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I never used my card in zomato for anyone and I don’t have a zomato account.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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damn… its my turn now…. within 5 min ..7 transactions attempted on my card…. 4 successful and 3 failed….. blocked the card now…
icici amex…

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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OMG block immediately friends it’s serious issue…

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Finance Ninja Finance Ninja
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why you guys using AMEX credit cards ?? i mean any special benefit ??

visa/master & upcoming Rupay credit cards are best.. its accept all websites/apps.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Do you know amex is also safe. It depends on the offers, points etc. Fyi, I swiped my amex card abroad and it asked for pin where as my visa and MasterCard got swiped just like that. So it’s not about the variant but it’s all about how we use it and where.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Oh wow. Could this be behind
- Amex txns being declined on Udio
- Previously Saved cards (prior to May 2017) on Udio being unavailable

Edit: Oops am late to this. Looks like others have already made the same observation like @Paisa_de , @A2Zdeals here.
https://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/...

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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No I feel it’s not udio because I did not save my amex card on udio.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Don’t the CC transactions need OTP verification to be completed..? I don’t own a CC so don’t know this..
And BTW for all transactions the card details (except CVV) are saved in database even if we choose not to (if at all an option is there). That save details option is for our convenience only, like for a situation you don’t have the physical card available but you can make the transaction with the details saved but you need to remember CVV for that..

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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most of the international sites don’t need OTP or 2 factor authentication. And if your bank enforces to use 2 factor authentication on all kind of txn performed on your cc ( domestic as well as international) then your txn would simply fail on international sites as the international portal doesn’t know what 2 factor authentication is. I read this in some article 3 years ago.

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Credit card or debit card

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Either Debit or credit, its better to remove the cards from saved wallets.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I will suggest to use Virtual cards for transactions on foreign sites and get international transaction blocked on dc/cc.
Or set some limit on your cards like only 10k,5k can be used for international transaction purpose.

Beacon Beacon
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Few days back I did transaction worth 149rs. On amazon India site with my Amex card & surprisingly It didn’t ask for OTP, after entering card no. & 4 digit vcc no. Amount directly debited from cc & my transaction was successful. Even I was like how it can be possible !!!

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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One odd thing with Amex card -

Recently I recharged for Jio starter pack and swiped my card at Mswipe machine. When it asked for pin, I entered wrong pin but surprisingly the transaction went through. I am going to check with Amex folks, how it happened.

Pro Entertainer Pro Entertainer
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Was it first ever transaction on your Amex card?
First transaction on Amex card goes through without pin

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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amex seems to be badly hit, I had another deluge of txns on my amex supplementary card an hour back, again from uber.
Blocked all my gold cards and requested replacements.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Do you have any idea where you used those supplementary cards?

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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While HDFC allows Netsafe the flaw there is you have to enable international txns for creating netsafe cards, it’s a hassle to remember to turn off international txns after creating netsafe card.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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You are right. That’s why I set a low international limit. https://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/...

You can now set several limits – per day/week, per transaction, per cycle, transactions/day etc

Beacon Beacon
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Has anyone experienced that amex send different otp no. To mobile & email address for same transaction ? I am facing this issue frequently…

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Its not a bug, its a feature…

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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One thing I would like to tell as most of you are telling that the transactions are being done on Uber.
Now a Days few Indian people have make a business from Uber and they are doing card binning to get a free ride on uber. Getting a free ride on uber have made them so blind that they are now not even capable of differentiating whats Illegal (and can land them to jail) and whats not!
And about savijg details on Indian Wallets and all
See basic formula , All these Indian wallets are kind of startup only or they give Zero f***s to security! So no matter what they say DONOT belive them and NEVER let thrm save you CC Details!

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Even if u do not save your card details, while transacting they still cache your card details… So inturn they anyways have all the card details… If they want, they can utilize it in any which way they want….

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