Buying Home Theatre 5.1 (Need Suggestions)

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I want to buy a value for money Home theatre. Can you guys suggest good home theatre?

Room size : 15ft x 15ft x 12ft
Price range : ~10K

Currently I have decided on to buy:
Motorola AmphisoundX with HDMI Arc 150 W Bluetooth Home Theatre
https://dl.flipkart.com/dl/motorola-amphisoundx...

(Although I hate some of the things regarding this product: Useless Fancy LED lights, It will get bad in 1-2 years…my old creative speakers are working for past 8-10 years, no fancy lights…simple design and perfect sound, though it’s only 2.1)

Since it supports HDMI Arc and Optical IN.
(Recently tried to watch Big Bang theory and it had 5.1 output…but couldn’t play it on 2.1 speakers.. Although I managed to change some settings and thereafter it worked but anyways, now I’m thinking to buy a 5.1 speaker system)

Any suggestions from you guys? (I guess soundbar technology is still not perfect so I decided against it…Sony and others are making fool in my opinion, by selling 1 soundbar and 2 rear speakers for 5.1 system)

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Thanks for tagging bro…. In my opinion your choice is good / perfect….

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Prior to using my current Motorola G9 power mobile phone, I was using an Asus M2 Max Pro.

The moment i connected this new Motorola phone to my Bluetooth sound system and played some music, their sub standard sound technology on these latest devices was noticeable.

I can only assume that they have adopted the Indian way of doing business and probably using cheap sound chipset to find margin on their low priced electronic devices.

With this experience on their sound technology, I wouldn’t buy a sound system from Motorola for myself.

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teriab33 wrote:

Prior to using my current Motorola G9 power mobile phone, I was using an Asus M2 Max Pro.

The moment i connected this new Motorola phone to my Bluetooth sound system and played some music, their sub standard sound technology on these latest devices was noticeable.

I can only assume that they have adopted the Indian way of doing business and probably using cheap sound chipset to find margin on their low priced electronic devices.

With this experience on their sound technology, I wouldn’t buy a sound system from Motorola for myself.

Everyone is doing that… philips is doing that as well. People are complaining about Sony speakers too.
In India we can’t even find a good AV receiver. All of the guys are selling built-in receivers…
Otherwise a good choice would have been to buy a good receiver and then buy individual speakers of your choice as well as a separate subwoofer…
Anyways the cost would have been terribly high even though the technology is not that great as compared to other segments (like smartphone).

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Your choice Motorola model itself a good one.. optical IN still not much familiar in India .
Check this once if possible.. F&D F6000X im not sure about its connectivity options, but heard it’s really good.
Edit: Else i would suggest for Sony-HT-RT3 (19k) to enjoy real 5.1 in Dolby Atmos Digital.

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mastervijay wrote:

Your choice Motorola model itself a good one.. optical IN still not much familiar in India . Else i would suggest for Sony-HT-RT3 (19k) to enjoy real 5.1 in Dolby Atmos Digital .

HTRT3 is Dolby Digital only not Atmos.

I suggest you buy Logitech Z906 which is THX certified, Dolby Digital, and DTS support as well.

Downside is weak SMPS, separate SMPS needed. No HDMI Arc as well.
However sound, bass is just superb.

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shivrajsingh wrote:

HTRT3 is Dolby Digital only not Atmos.

I suggest you buy Logitech Z906 which is THX certified, Dolby Digital, and DTS support as well.

Downside is weak SMPS, separate SMPS needed. No HDMI Arc as well.
However sound, bass is just superb.

Thanks for correcting.. ! Yeah its dolby digital.. seen a similar priced model with dolby Atmos.. so why got little bit confused. plus1

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Logitech Z906
Sound, vocals is just wow, and bass is ground shaking.

1. External SMPS is must as the inbuilt smps in controller is weak and gets burnt due to irregular power supply.
2. If connecting to PC, Use 6 channel direct cable.
3. For TV, use optical.

Apart from these, sound is like Cinema hall and its definitely worth buying. Your windows will vibrate many times even at 30-40% volume. The quality sound and bass will simply fill your room. Its definitely better than Sony, Zebronics soundbars, home theatres and is king upto 30k.

Sony HTRT3 is 2nd best option. But you will struggle to get 5.1 output. Technician will say 5.1 output will come only in ClearAudio Mod. In Z906, output is real 5.1.

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Time_pass wrote:

Tagging some techy guys:
@topgear @cybertechie @Original @saucap 😛 @bikidas2060 @Cody 😓 @OnlineBewda 😕 @guest_999 @Sigma999 @b4tm4n @rajarew @KMkool @Awake
@deb3l @Deal-Kwik @Ash-D @mastervijay @MrKool_JJ @androgame @avgn @Pablo_Kismibar @_One_Miller_ @Budhe-Baba 😡 @BubbleBoyChickenLittle
@dharmanath481
@getready
@raghupro @rajrocks

Haven’t done much research regarding various brands in Home Theatre, so not much expertise in this matter.
(Just from my experience of Motorola:- Motorola has very pathetic Customer support system Incase product develops any issue)

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shivrajsingh wrote:

HTRT3 is Dolby Digital only not Atmos.

I suggest you buy Logitech Z906 which is THX certified, Dolby Digital, and DTS support as well.

Downside is weak SMPS, separate SMPS needed. No HDMI Arc as well.
However sound, bass is just superb.

Logitech looks great…but it’s out of budget.
Sooner or later people will be making diy receivers and then I’ll customize the existing 5.1 speakers (whatever I buy).
Though someone is selling for 15K at IndiaMART. Let’s see

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mastervijay wrote:

Your choice Motorola model itself a good one.. optical IN still not much familiar in India .
Check this once if possible.. F&D F6000X im not sure about its connectivity options, but heard it’s really good.
Edit: Else i would suggest for Sony-HT-RT3 (19k) to enjoy real 5.1 in Dolby Atmos Digital.

Sony is good but somehow I’m sceptical about these soundbars. Some audio experts on YouTube are suggesting that you can’t get 5.1 surround with soundbar. It’s there for people who are afraid of too much wires. You need some separation between speakers to get that surround feeling

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shivrajsingh wrote:

Logitech Z906
Sound, vocals is just wow, and bass is ground shaking.

1. External SMPS is must as the inbuilt smps in controller is weak and gets burnt due to irregular power supply.
2. If connecting to PC, Use 6 channel direct cable.
3. For TV, use optical.

Apart from these, sound is like Cinema hall and its definitely worth buying. Your windows will vibrate many times even at 30-40% volume. The quality sound and bass will simply fill your room. Its definitely better than Sony, Zebronics soundbars, home theatres and is king upto 30k.

Sony HTRT3 is 2nd best option. But you will struggle to get 5.1 output. Technician will say 5.1 output will come only in ClearAudio Mod. In Z906, output is real 5.1.

Logitech Z906 doesn’t have HDMI Arc Input support. Also Dolby isn’t required for me since it’s already sent via Android box.

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Time_pass wrote:

Logitech Z906 doesn’t have HDMI Arc support. Also Dolby isn’t required for me since it’s already sent via Android box.

Which android box are you using? Does it support HDMI Arc / optical cable ? Else how will you get 5.1 output.

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shivrajsingh wrote:

Which android box are you using? Does it support HDMI Arc / optical cable ? Else how will you get 5.1 output.

I guess Arc is not needed in Android box…just split the hdmi output and feed one to the TV and another to Speaker

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sony HT Z9F … theatre experience

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TEMPER wrote:

sony HT Z9F … theatre experience

HDMI eARC will be needed for Dolby Atmos output.

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Frankly speaking 10k is too low a budget, I have seen/known audio enthusiasts spending double of that just to buy an AV receiver that too which is considered as entry level.
https://www.amazon.in/Edifier-R501BT-Versatile-...

No optical in though.

P.S. Check this site to see what true audio enthusiasts buy(a simple search link for 5.1 on their site) smile
https://proaudiohome.com/index.php?route=produc...

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Time_pass wrote:

Everyone is doing that… philips is doing that as well. People are complaining about Sony speakers too.
In India we can’t even find a good AV receiver. All of the guys are selling built-in receivers…
Otherwise a good choice would have been to buy a good receiver and then buy individual speakers of your choice as well as a separate subwoofer…
Anyways the cost would have been terribly high even though the technology is not that great as compared to other segments (like smartphone).

Bro, true audio enthusiasts will not be happy about what you just said. smile The tech of enthusiast grade audio equipment is quite good but they are also quite costly(check my above post).

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shivrajsingh wrote:

HDMI eARC will be needed for Dolby Atmos output.

I guess if you connect HDMI cable from PC/laptop to the Home theatre (HDMI Arc input), you’ll get sound right?
If it works then I can buy 1input 2 HDMI output device (it’s just 2 HDMI cables connected with one input HDMI port) and will have Dolby Atmos!
(Surround sound in the Android box does have support for Dolby Atmos, SC3, DTS-HD, DTS, AAC, Dolby TrueHD.)

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guest_999 wrote:

Frankly speaking 10k is too low a budget, I have seen/known audio enthusiasts spending double of that just to buy an AV receiver that too which is considered as entry level.
https://www.amazon.in/Edifier-R501BT-Versatile-...

No optical in though.

P.S. Check this site to see what true audio enthusiasts buy(a simple search link for 5.1 on their site) smile
https://proaudiohome.com/index.php?route=produc...

Yeah, you can’t compare Mercedes with Maruti… But the ones spending on those receivers also make sure their room is well suited for that setup. No hard flooring, need to have carpets and they do lots of fine tuning to get perfect sound.

But we don’t have that .. Bollywood movies/songs aren’t made for that😛
But the technology is very cheap… being an engineer myself, I can’t understand why these folks are selling for so much price! Yeah there is not much demand for these products, so they extract all the profits from wealthy (or the ones who goes after premium products) people…I want value for money 😛😕…so won’t spend that much!

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Time_pass wrote:

I guess if you connect HDMI cable from PC/laptop to the Home theatre (HDMI Arc input), you’ll get sound right?
If it works then I can buy 1input 2 HDMI output device (it’s just 2 HDMI cables connected with one input HDMI port) and will have Dolby Atmos!
(Surround sound in the Android box does have support for Dolby Atmos, SC3, DTS-HD, DTS, AAC, Dolby TrueHD.)

Yes for pc/laptop every hdmi port by default is practically hdmi arc enabled while in case of TV it is not always true. As for your plan of using hdmi splitter frankly speaking dolby atmos is practically useless without having a good(read expensive) surround sound system. With sub 20-30k audio systems I doubt many will be able to differentiate between dolby atmos & normal 5.1 surround.

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Time_pass wrote:

Yeah, you can’t compare Mercedes with Maruti… But the ones spending on those receivers also make sure their room is well suited for that setup. No hard flooring, need to have carpets and they do lots of fine tuning to get perfect sound.

But we don’t have that .. Bollywood movies/songs aren’t made for that😛
But the technology is very cheap… being an engineer myself, I can’t understand why these folks are selling for so much price! Yeah there is not much demand for these products, so they extract all the profits from wealthy (or the ones who goes after premium products) people…I want value for money 😛😕…so won’t spend that much!

Technology(of enthusiast grade audio equipment) is not cheap, see below link to get some idea.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so...

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guest_999 wrote:

Yes for pc/laptop every hdmi port by default is practically hdmi arc enabled while in case of TV it is not always true. As for your plan of using hdmi splitter frankly speaking dolby atmos is practically useless without having a good(read expensive) surround sound system. With sub 20-30k audio systems I doubt many will be able to differentiate between dolby atmos & normal 5.1 surround.

But you can experience Dolby Atmos from headphones, although it’s a stereo device. Weird right? It’s just the delays in sound that makes it look like the audio is 3D.

https://developer.dolby.com/blog/dolby-atmos-fo...

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guest_999 wrote:

Technology(of enthusiast grade audio equipment) is not cheap, see below link to get some idea.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so...

This reply was good:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?...

PS. Not much demand is causing the higher prices, just like smartphone prices used to be 10-12 years ago!

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shivrajsingh wrote:

HTRT3 is Dolby Digital only not Atmos.

I suggest you buy Logitech Z906 which is THX certified, Dolby Digital, and DTS support as well.

Downside is weak SMPS, separate SMPS needed. No HDMI Arc as well.
However sound, bass is just superb.

Just came to know that Toslink cable (Optical) have very less bandwidth. It can’t support Dolby Atmos. So if your device (say Android box) is sending Atmos sound via PCM to this Z906 then it will not be able to play that?

PS. I guess, I need to learn more about these Dolby protocols!😅

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The key difference between HDMI ARC and the HDMI forward channel is how much data can be transmitted – ARC only supports the 48 kHz and 192 kHz clock rates which means that Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus are supported but Dolby TrueHD is not supported as there isn’t enough bandwidth.

https://developer.dolby.com/blog/dolby-audio-ov....

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Time_pass wrote:

The key difference between HDMI ARC and the HDMI forward channel is how much data can be transmitted – ARC only supports the 48 kHz and 192 kHz clock rates which means that Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital Plus are supported but Dolby TrueHD is not supported as there isn’t enough bandwidth.

https://developer.dolby.com/blog/dolby-audio-ov....

No one really uses Dolby TrueHD format these days (5.1).. Now its either DTS HD Master/DTS-X or Dolby TrueHD + Atmos (7.1) for Physical Media
For Online Streaming.. the most popular preference is DD+ 5.1 (PrimeVideo, Netflix, Disney+, HBOMax…) and some include Object based audio too (Lossy Atmos) like Netflix, Disney+,HBOMax.. which even an HDMI ARC port can handle flawlessly

Also… there is zero use of passing through Atmos sound to a 5.1 A/V receiver.. You need 5.1.2/5.1.4 or 7.1.2/7.14 setup to feel the difference (or 5.1 setup with Upward firing speakers & Virtual tech like Sony’s vertical sound engine in Z9F )
https://www.dolby.com/en-in/about/support/guide...
https://www.dolby.com/en-in/about/support/guide...

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