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FASTAG – Can we have multiple fastag for same vehicle?

If yes:

I want to use it for below purpose.
Some fastags are not working at tolls due to various reasons.
If we have backup fastag, it will be easy to use that without paying via cash.
Also, to utilize various fastag issuer’s discounts.

If no:

Is there any SPCIFIC reason that FASTG has to be only one per vehicle?
Is it due to IAS officers have defined the policy, since some of the IAS are dumb and not have that much intelligence ?

Edit:
I am interested in getting the second fastag from different provider. If the toll fastag scanner not able to scan the first fastag (provided by paytm) , then I just want to replace it with another fastag (provided by non-paytm).

Why cant I buy second fastag from other service provider and use it ?
Thats what I am interested to know.

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The answer is No, you cannot have more than one tag for one vehicle.

If Yes:
People can take multiple tags and use it on other vehicles of bigger size
It may also be little messy for the premature fastag system to deal with multiple tags
Some of the crimes are also tracked via fastag, so multiple tags can open another gateway

Discounts will go away once the providers have enough customers base. IMO it is not a wise idea to take fastag in the name of utilizing offers.

For people who rarely use fastag, it doesn’t matter with discounts, if 50INR cashback comes, fine, even if not, the journey has to be taken. And for people who uses it frequently, the discounts may not matter again here, because that could be their need.

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Yes , 2 fast tag for one vehicle Is possible but  no use .

Only First registered fast tag work

second fast – " your FT Blacklisted " @any T.P.

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it’s just like a cd, buy a writer, blank tags and clone as many as you want stuck_out_tongue

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Any fastag where they are not charging security deposit

IDFC is one I believe

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These r RFID tags, so if both are in the car then both will be debited at the same time, plus u need to stick the tag of the windscreen…. So if both have balance you will end up paying double

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Do they scan fastag or the number plate at toll plazas?

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jileg wrote:

Do they scan fastag or the number plate at toll plazas?

The RFID scanners scan the tag, and the person sitting in booth manually scans the car type and the deducted fee, to ensure people are not misusing the tag and vehicle type.

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myfungang829 wrote:

These r RFID tags, so if both are in the car then both will be debited at the same time, plus u need to stick the tag of the windscreen…. So if both have balance you will end up paying double

If one needs convenience, and also use the available offers in market, may be one will be okay with multiple debits. Or the backup tag should be safely secured inside an aluminum case.

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andromeda wrote:

The answer is No, you cannot have more than one tag for one vehicle.

If Yes:
People can take multiple tags and use it on other vehicles of bigger size
It may also be little messy for the premature fastag system to deal with multiple tags
Some of the crimes are also tracked via fastag, so multiple tags can open another gateway

Discounts will go away once the providers have enough customers base. IMO it is not a wise idea to take fastag in the name of utilizing offers.

For people who rarely use fastag, it doesn’t matter with discounts, if 50INR cashback comes, fine, even if not, the journey has to be taken. And for people who uses it frequently, the discounts may not matter again here, because that could be their need.

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People can take multiple tags and use it on other vehicles of bigger size
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This may not be applicable.
I keep it just below the rear view mirror by hand, just few seconds before the toll gate.
I can still use my fastag with another vehicle, but never tried.

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ramadesidime wrote:

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People can take multiple tags and use it on other vehicles of bigger size
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This may not be applicable.
I keep it just below the rear view mirror by hand, just few seconds before the toll gate.
I can still use my fastag with another vehicle, but never tried.

That indeed is very much applicable and is in use. People declare wrong type of vehicle while being issued or use car type tag on a truck to avoid paying higher charges. The system is not fool proof yet. That’s the reason people manning the toll gate still manually verifies the vehicle type and charges deducted to find out any anomalies.

Consider a case, a small transport company using his car tag on a truck, who is preventing from doing it? But it gets flagged at one or other toll gate.

I keep it just below the rear view mirror by hand, just few seconds before the toll gate.

I’m not clear what you are intending to say, you can do this, only a matter of convenience to pop it out everytime you approach a toll. You may also try using your tag on a bigger vehicle than your vehicle. Do keep us posted with your experience.

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onlineuser7 wrote:

Yes , 2 fast tag for one vehicle Is possible but  no use .

Only First registered fast tag work

second fast – " your FT Blacklisted " @any T.P.

I understand from your reply that one can apply for multiple fastags but the first one will be active and rest of the fastags auto-blocklisted.

What if, the first fastag doesn’t work due to various reasons and car owner could not make it working for months/years?

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ramadesidime wrote:

I understand from your reply that one can apply for multiple fastags but the first one will be active and rest of the fastags auto-blocklisted.

What if, the first fastag doesn’t work due to various reasons and car owner could not make it working for months/years?

If it is not working for months/years, you need to raise a complaint and request for replacement. If it is still not working, complaint, piss them, get pissed and finally move on to difference provider or rant some where.

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myfungang829 wrote:

These r RFID tags, so if both are in the car then both will be debited at the same time, plus u need to stick the tag of the windscreen…. So if both have balance you will end up paying double

I guess, it is not the case.

The order flow is important here.
Deducting money from fastag > Open the toll gate > Close the toll gate > Be ready for next deduction.

The cycle has to complete for deducting money again from same fastag or other fastag.

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andromeda wrote:

If it is not working for months/years, you need to raise a complaint and request for replacement. If it is still not working, complaint, piss them, get pissed and finally move on to difference provider or rant some where.

According to his reply that ONLY first one will be active, and the rest are auto-blocked.
Then there is no question of getting it again from different provider, if the first one has an issue.
So, his reply of ’’autoblocked’’ may not be correct.

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andromeda wrote:

That indeed is very much applicable and is in use. People declare wrong type of vehicle while being issued or use car type tag on a truck to avoid paying higher charges. The system is not fool proof yet. That’s the reason people manning the toll gate still manually verifies the vehicle type and charges deducted to find out any anomalies.

Consider a case, a small transport company using his car tag on a truck, who is preventing from doing it? But it gets flagged at one or other toll gate.

I keep it just below the rear view mirror by hand, just few seconds before the toll gate.

I’m not clear what you are intending to say, you can do this, only a matter of convenience to pop it out everytime you approach a toll. You may also try using your tag on a bigger vehicle than your vehicle. Do keep us posted with your experience.

I am interested in getting the second fastag from different provider. If the toll fastag scanner not able to scan the first fastag (provided by paytm) , then I just want to replace it with another fastag (provided by non-paytm).

Why cant I buy second fastag from other service provider and use it?
Thats what I am interested to know.

Edit: Your points are valid, irrespective of single or multiple fastags, there is a possiblity of misuse.

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ramadesidime wrote:

According to his reply that ONLY first one will be active, and the rest are auto-blocked.
Then there is no question of getting it again from different provider, if the first one has an issue.
So, his reply of ’’autoblocked’’ may not be correct.

First of all they won’t let you take second tag when one tag is already active.

Say if it is issued somehow, they will blacklist both the tags, not just one. I can’t exactly recollect, but more than one tag is not allowed as per rules no matter how many valid convincing points you’ve got.

For this very reason, I’m still on HDFC fastag. I want to move to different provider but their stupid care doesn’t respond well.

Those are the rules and you need to abide by that. If you wish to bring the change, fight against the system or become one IAS officer and bring in the change.

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andromeda wrote:

First of all they won’t let you take second tag when one tag is already active.

Say if it is issued somehow, they will blacklist both the tags, not just one. I can’t exactly recollect, but more than one tag is not allowed as per rules no matter how many valid convincing points you’ve got.

For this very reason, I’m still on HDFC fastag. I want to move to different provider but their stupid care doesn’t respond well.

Those are the rules and you need to abide by that. If you wish to bring the change, fight against the system or become one IAS officer and bring in the change.

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.Certainly, the fastag architect did not foresee the expectations from the users in terms of convivence and value for money.

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.Certainly, the fastag architect did not foresee the expectations from the users in terms of convivence and value for money.Note: Some how, DD is adding duplicate text. Tried to re-edit, but same issue.

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ramadesidime wrote:

I am interested in getting the second fastag from different provider. If the toll fastag scanner not able to scan the first fastag (provided by paytm) , then I just want to replace it with another fastag (provided by non-paytm).

Why cant I buy second fastag from other service provider and use it?
Thats what I am interested to know.

Edit: Your points are valid, irrespective of single or multiple fastags, there is a possiblity of misuse.

As per the official documentation http://www.fastag.or...qs

Can one vehicle use more than one FASTag?
It is strictly prohibited to purchase two FASTag for one vehicle. In case of multiple FASTag, customer will be responsible for operational issues.

Here’s a way I could think of in your case when the one issued from paytm doesn’t work at a particular toll.
When it doesn’t work, you may give some peace to them mentioning that the same tag worked in earlier tolls, or the same toll if it actually worked earlier. You anyway have your fastag history to defend it. You may also say their systems are not efficient/working and raise a complaint with NHAI. I believe there are also some rules when their systems/servers are down, you can deny paying in cash. I’m little rusty with these rules now.

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ramadesidime wrote:

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.Certainly, the fastag architect did not foresee the expectations from the users in terms of convivence and value for money.

Yup.. I want to know, how their fastag system works to find out the bugs/loopholes/alternative ways to over come it.Certainly, the fastag architect did not foresee the expectations from the users in terms of convivence and value for money.Note: Some how, DD is adding duplicate text. Tried to re-edit, but same issue.

IMO it is well thought atleast from the way I see it given the conditions in India.

Value for money? You mean offers? Please don’t fret much on this, as offers will be stopped soon after they capture enough customer base. And this system adds more value to the money even if there are no offers. Earlier when paid by cash at toll, you don’t always get the change back, even if you get, you may get candies. But now, the amount gets debited to the fractional part and no fuss on change/candies. On top of all, you will get some cashback incentive when paid by toll, what more could you ask for?

And coming to the non functioning part, in case the scanners are defective at any particular toll, people manning the toll will usually be equipped with handheld scanners.

Also the way you use, like carrying or popping out whenever you approach toll is another deterrent. The scanners placed above are placed well to read the tag on the windshield, not the one hanging by mirror side. So consider some optimization from your part.

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andromeda wrote:

IMO it is well thought atleast from the way I see it given the conditions in India.

Value for money? You mean offers? Please don’t fret much on this, as offers will be stopped soon after they capture enough customer base. And this system adds more value to the money even if there are no offers. Earlier when paid by cash at toll, you don’t always get the change back, even if you get, you may get candies. But now, the amount gets debited to the fractional part and no fuss on change/candies. On top of all, you will get some cashback incentive when paid by toll, what more could you ask for?

And coming to the non functioning part, in case the scanners are defective at any particular toll, people manning the toll will usually be equipped with handheld scanners.

Also the way you use, like carrying or popping out whenever you approach toll is another deterrent. The scanners placed above are placed well to read the tag on the windshield, not the one hanging by mirror side. So consider some optimization from your part.

I disagree…

1)Banks (fastag providers) are making money , there is no refund claimed by users similar to Jio phone scam)

2)The offers would dry, may be after few years/decades. Ex: Paytm/CC/DC

3)Convenience to the drivers
The whole purpose is zip through the tolls without stopping. Architect should have considered how the Singapore/USA/UK/other tolls work.
Ex: Singapore/USA/UK/Malesia toll rate changes every few hours.

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ramadesidime wrote:

I disagree…

1)Banks (fastag providers) are making money , there is no refund claimed by users similar to Jio phone scam)

2)The offers would dry, may be after few years/decades. Ex: Paytm/CC/DC

3)Convenience to the drivers
The whole purpose is zip through the tolls without stopping. Architect should have considered how the Singapore/USA/UK/other tolls work.
Ex: Singapore/USA/UK/Malesia toll rate changes every few hours.

I would say not to bother about who is making money here. Confine the perspective to yourself to start with. How much benefit does this system offer?

If you think the providers are making money, may be you may consider getting one license and be a provider. In other words I do not want to get into the indepth details.

FYI, I claimed refund for some of the charges on my tag, and some more claims in progress.

Lets keep aside the offers part, this fastag/toll system is likely to go away down 2-3 years. There is some news in media.

I recently had a long trip going through multiple tolls across three states, never I rolled down my window once, had to wait for the queue to clear though. And this is my first drive with the newly arrived tag. I was little skeptical what if it doesn’t work etc….but then it all went smooth.

I do agree that we are way behind in terms of technology when compared with other sophisticated countries, but then when compared with earlier version of tollgate, I would say we are far ahead.

There are number of other factors like environmental conditions(dust/pollution etc) acting as deterrents for the scanners not to work in India.

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I don’t think that unless your previous tag is disabled you can have a new one. I had sold my car and simply removed my tag but did not disable it, as it was from my common pool of hdfc tags linked to my single account. The new owner was refused new tag by ICICI saying that car already has a working fast tag and it needs to be disabled. He got new one after I disabled older one.

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sentyjolly wrote:

I don’t think that unless your previous tag is disabled you cannot have a new one. I had sold my car and simply removed my tag but did not disabled it as it was from my common pool of hdfc tags linked to my single account. The new owner was refused new tag as icici days that it already has a working fast tag and it needs to be disabled. He got new one after I disabled older one.

So, no new fastag until the first one is disaled. Thanks for reply.

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