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any suggestion on f&o trading my relationship manager introduced f&0 trading to me and I have lost 13k till now
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Markets are going crazy and it's IPOs galore in bull market. October will see atleast 5 IPOs out of which 3 are confirmed. My views are
Godrej Agrovet - Long term/listing gains
MAS Financial - Listing Gains/For risk takers
IEX India - Risk takers/avoid - Steeply priced
IEX India investor PTC sold it's share at 140 odd 5 years ago. Few more investors sold from 290 to 600 range in last 2-3 years due to regulatory reason (5% max stock holding in exchange), they are asking 1650 now! Justified? You decide.
In MAS, Motilal Oswal sold share at 338 and they are asking 459 now in a year. This much premium is justified? In rising market, may be. P/E is also higher side considering much bigger players like M&M, Bajaj Finserve etc.
Godrej Agrovet is pick right now with much big production scale, wide reach and less P/E compare to animal feed and dairy products peers. Godrej has good managment and known for leaving something for investors. Take your call.
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https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_5933426
F&O is risky business high risk high gains. Option is still manageble futures normally involves large sums
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I have surplud cash few lacs lying idle. FD is useless becsuse of tax. Any othdr safe alternative thinking about liquid funds but never tried.
Any suggestion of good funds
And where can i buy i have zerodhs account.
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Quantum Liquid Fund.
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Biggest negative in budget is 20% tax on buybacks. If govt doesn’t takes back this decision by Monday, market gonna go down heavily. Specially IT companies who loves buybacks from cash they have. Cash company bachaye, shareholders risk leke stock khareede aur government khaali fokut mein 20% kaat le? Worst decision than increasing say LTCG or STCG.
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Just want to suck Money….ao much tax we have to pay
Income tax
Then pay tax for spending d left after giving income taxlike gst ..properrty tax…. Stamp duty..stt..etc..heavy electricity bills..high fuel prices
After all dis…d saved money is invested wid risk…if good return then that is also taxed
Wat a country we live in….middle class always gets butchered
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_5961907
my age is 49 so i can invest -51% in equity.
please give me 51% of 25 lacs..
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@marketdimer can you please guide me how to apply an ipo via upi? It’s so confusing. Any simplified video?
I applied for different pan cards from a single bank account, but the application wasn’t received. I want to know upi process. Please help.
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WITH REGARD TO APPLYING FOR IPO, PLZ NOTE THE FOLLOWING;
1. No UPI ID is required, if you give physical ASBA form to your bank
2. No UPI ID is required, if you lodge e-ASBA in your bank’s internet banking
3. UPI ID is required when you lodge your physical ASBA form through your Broker
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Is it good time to buy Ashok leyland
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Will be away for some time as busy in several commitments and other things in life. However this huge sale on street is once in a lifetime opportunity. Keep buying on dips investing through mutual funds or etfs. All the technicals data and fundamentals historical data suggest that this fall has given brilliant offer to enter. though still good stocks are overvalued and requires some deep correction still broader market has corrected sharply. it can still be lot of pain left as broader markets are only entered fair value range (18-19 p/e) and if correction is long and boring, many will lose faith and hope thereby missing opportunity. so stay invested and keep investing. also don’t show heroics on 52 week low stocks as they are 52/all time low because of some reason. increase equity portion, allocate more fund and have faith. don’t rely on government because they will only tax you till death and it’s you who has to fight against tide. keep rocking.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6019289
Sterling and Wilson, Spandana are good company, good revenue and promoters. Price is high but you pay extra for quality. Risk lene walon apply jaroor karna.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6019308
Both these might not enjoy gmp for 2 reasons and may not give quick returns on listing too, 1 is both sectors are in big time negative and 2 both have long gap between closing and listing and due to large size, NII and HNI will shy away hence no trade in grey markets or low excitement by operators. Still both companies are worth investing in ipo lottery (lag gai to theek nhi to better luck in next ipo).
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@BubbleBoyChickenLittle out of 18, how many did get lucky in hdfc amc?
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5. Sold 2 on listing, holding 3.
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Allotment in affle? Gmp?
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Got 1/7. Gmp around 200.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6027721
Any good discussion forum for stock market? Like for deals we have desidime…
Moneycontrol is good for latest news related to stocks. Definitely not a good choice for discussion
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6027768
If you come to know, please do share here as well
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Was spandana a good buy? Numbers look good
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6027888
Yeah numbers look good but Listing gain is mostly subscription driven, since it’s got very less subscription ; Listing may be flat. Also, there’s so much negativity around nbfc sector. So gave it a miss.
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Is affle a sell on listing or holding for a few months could be profitable
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Its pure operator driven stock with cooked books.
Do you know affle ceo salary is just 20k? The reason of such low salary is that the amount he doesn’t draws goes into profit. Also it compete with Google and facebook so know the competition level is David and Goliath.
As for Microsoft deal, it was done in 2009 when they ran sms campaign. Are they still in affle? No one knows.
Did I apply? Yes. Got 1 out of 3 and was sleeping, my cousin called me at 10.15 and i could sell at 928 however it went to 750 in no time.
Out of 3 ipos, s&w is best of lot but bit costly, spandana is highly costly and affle is just punter play which can still go into 4 figures but doesn’t have real future. Book profits.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6030208
@BubbleBoyChickenLittle 926 pre open.
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EOD will see if there’s any bulk deal by any DII/FII. I always watch out for such deals in starting 2-3 days. Anyway, company has no Capex requirement, negligible debt and lot of growth scope. Microsoft holds 6% and Madison Communications also has stake.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6030912
In 2008, 10% stocks didn’t touch 52 weeks low in that year. Currently we are at 15% rate however nifty HRITIK stocks doesn’t show real picture.
Nifty macd, one of the best indicator is currently at 30 odd lowest range in last 13 years in about 3500 days of trading.
Nifty RSI is around lowest 70s ever level in past 13 years data of 3500 days of trading. It can still go down 70 odd days level (17 was lowest), but on bright side we have 3430 days of better RSI then today.
Keep investing in every fall. Don’t lose hope.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6254703
Booked handsome profits. Now out of market today, just 15:85 ratio of equity left, in PPFAS and Franklin Prima. However markets are still not costly, can go up and should go up though it can’t be straight line up move.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6085261
@marketdimer
most of my funds are in loss now and friends suggesting not to continue.
It was green 2-3 months back..now all red with % loss in double digits.
I never noticed such loss since I started investing.
doing monthly sip for large cap, diversified and banking funds since 2016.
please advise .
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This depends on lot of your personal factors. Your age, risk capacity, goals, to name a few. However to start with, I’d like to tell that you started your JOURNEY when everything was ROSY. And kept getting rosier (lol is this even a word). BUT NOW, the tide has turned.
Anyway, very basic thing to continue with the funds is to look into the stocks which it’s holding. Put some common sense to how businesses work and how economic slowdown / recession affect them. Look into businesses and their respective management, not stock prices..
These are just few points. Like I said earlier, it all depends on a combination of lot of factors, not just few. So bro, better to consult an RIA (who doesn’t sell products).
And HAVE PATIENCE. You’ll end up thanking it someday. 
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Can you list down all the MFs you have invested into?
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What about IRCTC ipo ?
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IRCTC IPO details:
IPO Open: 30-September-2019
IPO Close: 03-October-2019
Face Value: ₹10 Per Equity Share
Price Band: ₹315 to ₹320 Per Share
Discount: ₹10 for Retail & Employees
Shares: Apply for 40 Shares (Minimum Lot Size)
GMP (26/09/19) – 105 – 110
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anyone got allotment in IRCTC IPO
my 0/5
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6167030
where did you check?
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@Batman_X
Also bro, I got one lot in of the demat account where I placed the bid from a non-linked bank account. So yeah it’s still working like it did for previous IPOs and the latest one Affle.
One can still apply for 5 applications for 5 different demat accounts from a single net banking. I did from PNB net banking.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6167610
Congrats bro.
Very few people got the allotment.
This was first time I applied from non linked bank account but no luck.
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Please suggest me a paperback book to learn about technical analysis/charts/strategies/portfolio building.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6196838
If you want to truly learn
Test real waters
For getting started , Zerodha varsity is enough.
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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Kal GO GOA GONE 
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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Infosys down 16% in USA
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I don’t know which company I should trust… Every fu**ing co. has some corporate governance issue 
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/ipos-in-october-discussion-thread?page=12#post_6200533
That’s why they say – Diversify your pf into 10 established quality companies (Ofcourse, finding quality is a BIG HURDLE in itself)..
And stay invested.
Over a long period of time, chances are only 2-3 will vanish in worst case scenario. But the rest will end up making money for you.
You never know even of other 7-8 companies, and that’s the risk you need to take, my friend.
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Anyone shorted Infosys today? Can it be shorted at even these levels?
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Why you want to do fno?
You wanna lose money?
Trading is a different ball game together. Don’t burn your hands, and your money and your peaceful life.
Enjoy the game from sideline. 
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