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i guys my laptop has becom real slow offlate
dell inspiron 15R 3gb ram
out of 320gb storage 120 empty
if i add more ram will it fix my problem
planning to buy from 30%ebay offer

which ram to buy as u dont know whats compatible..nd how much gb
if link provided than ill be obliged
thnx

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post your full lappy model and specs bro
1.open run
2.type- dxdiag and press enter post ss here

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when was the last time you install windows

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3 GB is enough for windows most of the time. Run a dell diagnostics to find out if all the hardware components are working fine.

How to start ePSA Diagnostics?

To run the Enhanced Pre-boot System Assessment (ePSA) diagnostics on a Dell desktop or all-in-one system, perform the steps below:

Restart the computer.
As the computer boots, press when the Dell Splash Screen appears.
At the One Time Boot menu, press the arrow key to highlight Diagnostics and press
A graphical menu listing all discovered devices in the system is now displayed and the express diagnostics should run (Takes about 4 minutes).

http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SL...

Let us know the result of diagnostics.

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@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one for around 2500 bucks.

You might also find this post of some use: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.

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"@DealSeeker":http://www.desidime.com/users/209542 wrote:

@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one around 2500 bucks. See http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.

Thanks for ssd buying suggestion

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@DealSeeker wrote:

@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one around 2500 bucks. See http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.


SSD upgrade is a great idea however replacing HDD on inspiron 15R ( 5010 or 5110) is not a simple task. OP may need to seek help from a local repair place to get it done. replacing HDD on most dell laptops are simple however on certain models such as Inspiron 15R , HDD is placed deep inside the system. My brother owns 15R and i remember replacing HDD on his laptop couple of years back. It was a challenge to take it apart and put it back.

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@cybertechie wrote:

@DealSeeker wrote:

@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one for around 2500 bucks.

You might also find this post of some use: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.


SSD upgrade is a great idea however replacing HDD on inspiron 15R ( 5010 or 5110) is not a simple task. OP may need to seek help from a local repair place to get it done. replacing HDD on most dell laptops are simple however on certain models such as Inspiron 15R , HDD is placed deep inside the system. My brother owns 15R and i remember replacing HDD on his laptop couple of years back. It was a challenge to take it apart and put it back.


A quick Google search revealed that the hard disk is indeed installed in a non-standard manner on Inspiron 15R. But the work seems to involve only opening one access panel as per http://blog.parts-people.com/2014/05/06/dell-in.... What problems did you face?

My apologies in advance if I seem a little stoic, but it’s only because I have completely disassembled many of my laptops to clean the heatsinks and reapply thermal paste so it’s hard for me to imagine problems with an HDD replacement.

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A quick Google search revealed that the hard disk is indeed installed in a non-standard manner on Inspiron 15R. But the work seems to involve only opening one access panel as per http://blog.parts-people.com/2014/05/06/dell-in.... What problems did you face?

My apologies in advance if I seem a little stoic, but it’s only because I have completely disassembled many of my laptops to clean the heatsinks so it’s hard for me to imagine problems with an HDD replacement.


HDD installation procedure varies with each 15R models. Most common inspiron 15R’s sold in India were Inspiron 5010 and inspiron 5110. The link in your post is for a newer 15R model( 5537) which has a standard HDD installation procedure.

Here is the link for HDD replacement on older 15R machines : there are multiple components that needs to be disassembled before one can access HDD.

http://www.insidemylaptop.com/taking-apart-dell...

OP is most likely using one of the older 15R models since newer one’s (sold in 2012 and afterwards) ships with minimum 4 GB of memory and 500 GB HDD.

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@cybertechie wrote:

@DealSeeker wrote:

A quick Google search revealed that the hard disk is indeed installed in a non-standard manner on Inspiron 15R. But the work seems to involve only opening one access panel as per http://blog.parts-people.com/2014/05/06/dell-in.... What problems did you face?

My apologies in advance if I seem a little stoic, but it’s only because I have completely disassembled many of my laptops to clean the heatsinks so it’s hard for me to imagine problems with an HDD replacement.


HDD installation procedure varies with each 15R models. Most common inspiron 15R’s sold in India were Inspiron 5010 and inspiron 5110. The link in your post is for a newer 15R model( 5537) which has a standard HDD installation procedure.

Here is the link for HDD replacement on older 15R machines : there are multiple components that needs to be disassembled before one can access HDD.

http://www.insidemylaptop.com/taking-apart-dell...

OP is most likely using one of the older 15R models since newer one’s (sold in 2012 and afterwards) ships with minimum 4 GB of memory and 500 GB HDD.


Got you!

That’s indeed a complicated process just to replace HDD. Horrible design choice by Dell. #SMH

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@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one for around 2500 bucks.

You might also find this post of some use: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.


@DealSeeker brother what is this wechat 30% offer?

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@b.sainarayanarao434 wrote:

@DealSeeker wrote:

@hsagent 3 GB RAM is good enough for normal use. Since you mentioned “of late”, I am assuming you were satisfied with the performance earlier. So the real problem is more likely the absence of maintenance activities required for Windows systems like defragmentation, cleaning up of temporary files, and cleaning up of registry. In any case, if you are planning to spend some money, I would you rather spend the money on getting an SSD for your system. This is the best time to buy a used 256 GB Samsung SSD from ebay with wechat 30% + Mobikwik 10% cashback offer. You can buy one for around 2500 bucks.

You might also find this post of some use: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

Also, do post the diagnostics result as @cybertechie suggested above just to rule out the rare chance that there is a hardware issue.


@DealSeeker brother what is this wechat 30% offer?


Here you go, bro: http://www.desidime.com/forums/hot-deals-online...

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bro u need to buy

1. samsung 850 evo ssd 120 gb || 5yrs waranty || using ebay 30% off || approx rs 4000

2. 4gb ram 1066mhz or higher || 4gb x 1 only in single slot || in 2nd s;lot u may useyour old ram or leave that slot empty

u will certainly see noticeable improvement

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i have a 1tb external hard disk
so i dont c the need of buying ssd
btw i have never formatted my system
nd thnx for response guys

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ssd is fir c: drive i.e. windows OS
for data u have to rely on external hdd in any case

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I had opened my sister’s 14R to replace the HDD with SSD seeing a youtube video. Trust me they have housed the HDD deep inside and the only way is to open the laptop completely to reach the mother board. If you are not careful you can spoil the lappy. But with the upgrade there has been huge performance gain and SSD is worth the upgrade if you are considering buying a new lappy.

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my c druve is 50 %free
shud i still buy ssd

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@hsagent wrote:

my c druve is 50 %free
shud i still buy ssd


ssd is very fast bro

u have to buy if want everything to be faster

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ssd ke baad windows reinstall needed ??

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@hsagent wrote:

ssd ke baad windows reinstall needed ??


yes // no depends

do u have computer with 2 empty hdd slots then no reinstall needed

but is advised to fresh install windows

it took only 5-6 minutes when i installed windows on my laptop ssd

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I guess you don’t need a ram as 3GB is good enough. If the above suggestions don’t work, try cleaning the dust at the vents.
In most Dell lappies of Inspiron 14R/15R models, this problem is mainly due to heating, which in turns heats up the processor. Sometimes when the heat is too much, it gets shut down avoiding any damage to the processor. Check whether the fan is functioning properly or not.

My friend’s Dell lappy also had the same problem and we found that it was getting slow when it gets heated up.
On checking we saw that the problem was with the fan not functioning properly at times. We took it to a known repair person and before opening he used some appliance (I think it was a small vacuum cleaner he kept for just that purpose) to blow air at the fan vents from a little distance away and a tonn of dust flew out.
After that the lappy functioned normally as the fan did its job well. There was no need even to open it and problem was solved.

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I guess you don’t need a ram as 3GB is good enough. If the above suggestions don’t work, try cleaning the dust at the vents.
In most Dell lappies of Inspiron 14R/15R models, this problem is mainly due to heating, which in turns heats up the processor. Sometimes when the heat is too much, it gets shut down avoiding any damage to the processor. Check whether the fan is functioning properly or not.

My friend’s Dell lappy also had the same problem and we found that it was getting slow when it gets heated up.
On checking we saw that the problem was with the fan not functioning properly at times. We took it to a known repair person and before opening he used some appliance (I think it was a small vacuum cleaner he kept for just that purpose) to blow air at the fan vents from a little distance away and a tonn of dust flew out.
After that the lappy functioned normally as the fan did its job well. There was no need even to open it and problem was solved.


I think he used a compressed air can.
@hsagent U can use Throttlestophttp://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/(excellent software,can also be used to undervolt to further reduce heat) to check if ur CPU is indeed throttling down to prevent overheating. That would account for the slowdowns.
And a Windows reinstall is highly recommended plus an SSD if u can afford it. With the present ebay promotions 256GB SSD can be had for less than Rs 3k.

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@whiterose wrote:

I guess you don’t need a ram as 3GB is good enough. If the above suggestions don’t work, try cleaning the dust at the vents.
In most Dell lappies of Inspiron 14R/15R models, this problem is mainly due to heating, which in turns heats up the processor. Sometimes when the heat is too much, it gets shut down avoiding any damage to the processor. Check whether the fan is functioning properly or not.

My friend’s Dell lappy also had the same problem and we found that it was getting slow when it gets heated up.
On checking we saw that the problem was with the fan not functioning properly at times. We took it to a known repair person and before opening he used some appliance (I think it was a small vacuum cleaner he kept for just that purpose) to blow air at the fan vents from a little distance away and a tonn of dust flew out.
After that the lappy functioned normally as the fan did its job well. There was no need even to open it and problem was solved.


I think he used a compressed air can.
@hsagent U can use Throttlestop(excellent software,can also be used to undervolt to further reduce heat) to check if ur CPU is indeed throttling down to prevent overheating. That would account for the slowdowns.
And a Windows reinstall is highly recommended plus an SSD if u can afford it. With the present ebay promotions 256GB SSD can be had for less than Rs 3k.


please give link for ssd

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@Dr Anshuman wrote:

@whiterose wrote:

I guess you don’t need a ram as 3GB is good enough. If the above suggestions don’t work, try cleaning the dust at the vents.
In most Dell lappies of Inspiron 14R/15R models, this problem is mainly due to heating, which in turns heats up the processor. Sometimes when the heat is too much, it gets shut down avoiding any damage to the processor. Check whether the fan is functioning properly or not.

My friend’s Dell lappy also had the same problem and we found that it was getting slow when it gets heated up.
On checking we saw that the problem was with the fan not functioning properly at times. We took it to a known repair person and before opening he used some appliance (I think it was a small vacuum cleaner he kept for just that purpose) to blow air at the fan vents from a little distance away and a tonn of dust flew out.
After that the lappy functioned normally as the fan did its job well. There was no need even to open it and problem was solved.


I think he used a compressed air can.
@hsagent U can use Throttlestop(excellent software,can also be used to undervolt to further reduce heat) to check if ur CPU is indeed throttling down to prevent overheating. That would account for the slowdowns.
And a Windows reinstall is highly recommended plus an SSD if u can afford it. With the present ebay promotions 256GB SSD can be had for less than Rs 3k.


please give link for ssd


http://www.ebay.in/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=...
Bear in mind these are used ones but thanks to 30 day Ebay Guarantee its easy enough to gauge its worth.
@cybertechie @DealSeeker should be able to provide solid guidance but I see u hv managed to miff them both!

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@Dr Anshuman wrote:

@whiterose wrote:

I guess you don’t need a ram as 3GB is good enough. If the above suggestions don’t work, try cleaning the dust at the vents.
In most Dell lappies of Inspiron 14R/15R models, this problem is mainly due to heating, which in turns heats up the processor. Sometimes when the heat is too much, it gets shut down avoiding any damage to the processor. Check whether the fan is functioning properly or not.

My friend’s Dell lappy also had the same problem and we found that it was getting slow when it gets heated up.
On checking we saw that the problem was with the fan not functioning properly at times. We took it to a known repair person and before opening he used some appliance (I think it was a small vacuum cleaner he kept for just that purpose) to blow air at the fan vents from a little distance away and a tonn of dust flew out.
After that the lappy functioned normally as the fan did its job well. There was no need even to open it and problem was solved.


I think he used a compressed air can.
@hsagent U can use Throttlestophttp://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/(excellent software,can also be used to undervolt to further reduce heat) to check if ur CPU is indeed throttling down to prevent overheating. That would account for the slowdowns.
And a Windows reinstall is highly recommended plus an SSD if u can afford it. With the present ebay promotions 256GB SSD can be had for less than Rs 3k.


ha, it was not a compressed air can. It looked like a vacuum cleaner only but cannot say clearly as I was standing at a little distance when he was working inside the counter. He didn’t even charge anything from us (but he was a known person to us) https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif May be, as he was new in that field, he had got equipped with some appliances that are not conventional but would serve his purpose.

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Some of the repairs guys tend to use vaccum cleaner to dust the laptop/desktop processor fan .Vaccum cleaners are not recommended to dust computer fans especially laptop fans since powerful air emanating from vaccum cleaner might up damaging the fan. Compressed air cans are better choice anyday. .

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@cybertechie wrote:

Some of the repairs guys tend to use vaccum cleaner to dust the laptop/desktop processor fan .Vaccum cleaners are not recommended to dust computer fans especially laptop fans since powerful air emanating from vaccum cleaner might up damaging the fan. Compressed air cans are better choice anyday. .


Exactly!

Moreover, opening the laptop before attempting to clean the dust should be preferred because blowing air directly at the heatsink vent improperly will only move the dust and debris further inside on top of the motherboard circuitry. Opening the laptop also allows for a reapplication of the thermal paste which, IMO, should be done anyways at least once every couple of years. I have personally seen temperature differences of upto 15 Celsius upon cleaning and reapplication of thermal paste.


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@cybertechie @DealSeeker should be able to provide solid guidance but I see u hv managed to miff them both!


You have again shown skills of keen observations. https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

I can’t speak for cybertechie, but I am surely miffed by users like @hsagent who first ask for advice and when it’s given to them, they just ignore it and carry on with tangential discussion. This is why I tend to ignore many posts asking for technical advice despite my instincts to offer help. Just to be clear, OP has neither posted the diagnostics information suggested by @cybertechie nor has he shown any indication of having done the maintenance activities I recommended. #SMH


By the way, most of the sellers have increased the prices of used SSDs substantially within the last two days, probably to cash-in on the 30% discount frenzy.

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@@DealSeaker@@ ns cybertechie
sry if u miffed u guys
i m preparing for entrance exam
studying through ebooks on lappi nd slow laptop was an issue
i did diagonostics told by cybertechie 3 days back nd no problem was found..
also i saw many people referring to ssd …i need to search for it nd buy it byt cant give my lappi to engineer till exams r over…
i do defragmentation n clear temp n cookies every month
dr anshuman thnx for link n advice
bt link u gave start frm around 7k
but people mentined v could get thm around 3k how??

1 more thing tht i keep on hibernating my lappi for days,..can it cause any issue like bad sector or any other ??

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@@DealSeaker@@ ns cybertechie
sry if u miffed u guys
i m preparing for entrance exam
studying through ebooks on lappi nd slow laptop was an issue
i did diagonostics told by cybertechie 3 days back nd no problem was found.. (1)
also i saw many people referring to ssd …i need to search for it nd buy it byt cant give my lappi to engineer till exams r over…
i do defragmentation n clear temp n cookies every month (2)
dr anshuman thnx for link n advice
bt link u gave start frm around 7k
but people mentined v could get thm around 3k how?? (3)

1 more thing tht i keep on hibernating my lappi for days,..can it cause any issue like bad sector or any other ?? (4)


(1) So you ran the Dell diagnostics test even before @cybertechie suggested it, correct? The least you can do in return for a good advice offered my somebody is acknowledge it and mention that you have already tried the suggestion.


(2) Again, the least you can do in return for a good advice offered my somebody is acknowledge it and mention that you have already tried it. Are you doing this manually? Have you tried the CCleaner and Defraggler applications that I recommended in the linked post?


(1 + 2) Nobody will be able to offer you more troubleshooting instructions until you confirm that the initial steps were followed and did not work.


(3) See this: http://www.ebay.in/itm/Samsung-256GB-SSD-6GBPS-.... This was listed for for 3,750 until yesterday, but now the seller has increased the price to 3,999. You can use the wechat coupon to get a 30% immediate discount (http://www.desidime.com/forums/hot-deals-online...) and pay by Mobikwik to get additional 10% cashback (available for 3 eBay transactions per month). With the discount and the cashback, you will end up paying only Rs.2,700 for the SSD.


(4) Yes, frequent hibernation can lead to bad sectors. In the interest of saving some typing, I am going to refer you to the following page: http://superuser.com/questions/899486/can-hiber...


Now that you have provided some more information, the problem seems more likely to be related to the overheating caused during Indian summers. Based on the comfort level and knowledge you have shown about computers, I would recommend you to take the laptop to a computer repair shop and ask for a cleaning of the heatsink vent and a reapplication of the thermal paste on the CPU/GPU. This will probably cost you only Rs.500.

Also, if it’s been more than a couple of years since you last formatted your system, a reformat is recommended since you are using Windows.

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i defragmented using the windows defragmenter. avilable after right click on c drive …also i c defragment option there on mcaffee antivirus is it any good
i have never frmatted system since i bought i.e 4 years….

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