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Welcome. We discuss stock market, shares and IPOs, other avenues of investments like mutual funds, fixed deposits and everything related to finance. Share your views, share your ideas. Get help and information by fellow dimers on trading and demat account, bank account or mutual fund schemes. Help everyone and keep thread for informative purpose, learning and earning. Enjoy! Markets are going crazy and it's IPOs galore in bull market. October will see atleast 5 IPOs out of which 3 are confirmed. My views are Godrej Agrovet - Long term/listing gains MAS Financial - Listing Gains/For risk takers IEX India - Risk takers/avoid - Steeply priced IEX India investor PTC sold it's share at 140 odd 5 years ago. Few more investors sold from 290 to 600 range in last 2-3 years due to regulatory reason (5% max stock holding in exchange), they are asking 1650 now! Justified? You decide. In MAS, Motilal Oswal sold share at 338 and they are asking 459 now in a year. This much premium is justified? In rising market, may be. P/E is also higher side considering much bigger players like M&M, Bajaj Finserve etc. Godrej Agrovet is pick right now with much big production scale, wide reach and less P/E compare to animal feed and dairy products peers. Godrej has good managment and known for leaving something for investors. Take your call. Disclaimer - This thread is for discussion and doesn't provide any investment or related information. All investments carry market related risk and one should consult advisors before taking any decision.
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अगर सब कुछ मिल जाएगा ज़िंदगी मे तो तमन्ना किसकी करोगे... कुछ अधूरी ख्वाइशें तो ज़िन्दगी जीने का मज़ा देती है ।।
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खऱ्या अर्थाने कोणी कोणाला शिकवू शकत नाही. एखाद्या रोपटयाचा जसा आपोआपच विकास होतो तसाच नैसर्गिक अडथळे दूर करणे, आणि त्याच्या शक्तींना जागृती आणणे. योग्य खतपाणी घातले, प्रकाश व हवापाणी यांची सोय केली, सभोवती कुंपन घातले, म्हणजे रोपटे सुरक्षित राहील व त्याचा योग्य प्रकारे विकास होईल. तसेच मुलांचेही आहे. म्हणून विकासाला योग्य‍ परिस्थिती निमार्ण करुन देणे हेच शिक्षकाचे कार्य. या दृष्टीने शिक्षण हे अभावात्मक म्हणावे लागेल. You cannot teach a child any more than you can grow a plant. The plant develops its own nature. The child also teaches itself. But you can help it to go forward in its own way. What you can do is not of a positive nature but negative. You can take away the obstacles and knowledge comes out of its own nature. Loosen the soil a little, so that it may come out easily. Put a hedge round it, see that it is not kitted by anything. You can supply the growing seed with the materials for the making up of its body, brining to it the earth, the water, the air that it wants. And there your work stops. - Swami Vivekanand
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also, fomo happened when 7600 to 8300 went so quickly. those who missed and still on fomo will jump in at any levels. abhi to aur girega is more uncertain (but can’t deny) then chalte chalte yunhi ruk jata hoon main (staying sideways) and chal kahin door nikal jayen is highly likely.

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is bob good at current price ??

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BSE looks like a good buy

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Adani stocks were on fire today 🤘🤘🤘

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Shreedigcem Hits Upper Circuit joy joy fire fire

Holding since 28.35 level. grinning grinning

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What is good about Shreedigcem?

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Most of the Bussiness are shut, so as usage might be low? Revenue will also go down?

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What about ruchi soya? Now it’s hitting LC
Edit:- I don’t hold any shares of ruchi soya.

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Guys give your honest review of Finvasia. And NEST vs BEST vs NOW vs Scalpert.
I need opinion on,
1) charts
2) interface
3) stability
4) latency, for scalping purpose

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If I fear that these type of firms attracting small traders and then sell data to big players.
like- What is Stop loss of small traders, what is buy order etc.
and the big player with high frequency trading system, make all money making small trader loose,
Am I wrong?

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Hdfc ltd looks to be promising in the long term. Seeing Stochastic it looks over sold, and looks bullish seeing ichimoku wave.

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Apparently Babaji’s Ashirvad is not working on Ruchi Soya anymore 😜🤡

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positive global cues,

still nifty closes in Red flushed

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If an apology is followed by an excuse or a reason, it means they are going to commit same mistake again they just apologized for.

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Nopes. Not gonna happen. May be it was not a mistake after all. Maybe that was a matured thing to do. wink
Just don’t assume things

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Maybe the taboo behind the discussion of speculative trading among the knowing ones and ease of availability of discussion in trading among amateurs have given the rise of this situation. I don’t know. Maybe people should lose money to gain experience. Maybe some people should lose all of their money, so that they can be bitter about stock market for their rest of lifetime. Maybe it’s like the patterns on the charts, and market makes it happen, whether we want it or not.
I am really confused now. For example if I go to a discount broker, and start talking about opening an account, immediate reply would be, “where do you want to trade, FNO, Cash segment, Commodity or Currency?”. The follow up question will be, “do you want to do intraday?”. If I go to a full time broker, they will be pushing me to get their advisory, which means asking you to buy and sell on tips. Then, there are stock market trainers. They charge exorbitant prices to give two, three day worth of seminars. I am like, I will become a Pandit in stock market after listening to them, well then why don’t they make that much money in market? Why do they scream for 9-10 hours per session I have no idea. Maybe it is a definite income, like having a 9-5 job. You do 9 hours of work and you get some money, in this case you get a lot of money. I am like okay. Then I see free webinars by Fidai and people like him and get impressed by them. Well, then comes youtube. Every tom, dick and harry get a youtube channel these days providing knowledge about stock market. Some are really good but boring like Nitin Bhatia, and someone are very entertaining like Sunil Minglani and Manoj Kumar Jain, but are full of trash. They keep on promoting about Zerodha, Upstox to get that 20% brokerage commission. Amazing business. Multiple sources of income are necessary, that’s why is being told by P.R. Sundar. And some keep on saying following Warren Buffet is the key.
So, common people are now cornered. Surge of over information might have caused sensory deprivation among some people. Some have become blind, some have become greedy. I am like, whoa!
Ideal evolution among traders are so different. Someone enters in the lure of intraday, like me. Some get ruined and some get saved like me. Some lose all after a while and keep on saying speculation is bad and long term is the key. And some get their hands burnt in both speculation and long term trading because of some bad decision. I don’t know, maybe luck plays a role too. Then come people like Jim Simons, net worth at 20 Billion USD. Not bad, not bad at all.
Telegram groups say, we will give you 90% accuracy, well his model is based upon 50% accuracy at all. Maybe he is lying. But I did this math. Say, my target gives 350 rupees as profit and 250 rupees as loss. So, if my model works in 50:50 way, then I will be 5000 as profit. My risk to reward is 1.4. For a beginner not bad. Well, for a good trader the accuracy level must be pretty high. Say 60-40, the profit becomes more legendary, 11000 rupees after 100 speculative trades. Not bad at all.
People maybe fall for those nonsense 90% accuracy trap and become emotional and lose money. Not many people talk about Jim Simons, they won’t give that 50-50 model.
So, like any job, any well paying job, speculation demands a lot of thing. And long term investment requires proper vision, except in some index funds.
Well, in the closing words, I would like to say, the world is changing. The way people invested years ago and they people speculate/invest now have changed. They keep on changing. And all one has to adapt to one model. That’s it. One should not give up trying like in any career. Time and money are in limited supply, use, invest, speculate up on em wisely. A Navy SEAL, whom I know over Instagram, says don’t try to sideline things. Do one thing properly at a time. He is right. smile

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Maybe stuck_out_tongue

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Now have to use TPIN for cnc orders

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half of the nifty stocks have crossed 50 dma, nifty needs to stay above 9445 for 50 dma. macd is above signal line. are these false positives or we are really going ahove 10k very soon? wait and watch. stay cautiously opstimistic. don’t over-leverege, don’t run blindly.

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still trying hard. chances are getting lesser now expiry may pull down market any time in 2nd session. we may see 9k before 10k now. still, fingers crossed..

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wow, we are finally trading above 50 dma after long time. why 10k is on cards? because 100 dma is around 10070. so now 20 dma becomes resistance and we may aim for 100 dma. play the trend. just that markets shouldn’t correct in 2nd half and continue momentum. nahi to fir wohi upar neeche ka khel chalta rahega.

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I was wondering if Warren Buffett gets serious or somehow not able to survive till his over ambitious crash what will happen then 😊😜😜😜

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Guys watch the last 8 mins of this video


Not related to market. But it works in every field of life.
Stew Smith says, if you can’t do 100 pushups at a time, do 400 pushups a day. It works for me, should work for you too.

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Jai ho market ki. pray pray  Booked my 80% swings. grinning grinning

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😍😍😍😍

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Kis-kis ka lottery lagi ya phir fati in Idea today?

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18k profit n booked later it fallen

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nifty, bank nifty, most fno stocks are trading at heavy discount on futures (by now most telegram, twitter, whatsapp posts are filled with this info).. this either happens when there are dividends coming or large players open fresh short positions. dividends are unlikely, shorts are more possible. though all technicals are still showing uptrend, stay cautious. something is cooking and it is big. i myself booked profits in half of my portfolio. lets see….

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Any updated thoughts on Reliance? The price seems to be holding up decently well so far. Do you think we can expect a correction once the rights issue date is over and before this quarter results are announced?

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GDP data better than expectation

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Guys, have you seen the new Zerodha Charts??? Bhai dill khush hogaya.
Use Chart IQ charts, there is an indicator known as candlestick patterns. See the magic . wink wink wink

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Wow … jabardast.. mazza aa gaya.. smile
Anything else interesting.. do let me bhai!

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these 6 technical chart indicators added

1. Candlestick patterns on the chart
2. RSI divergence
3. MACD divergence
4. Stochastics divergence
5. Stochastics RSI
6. Central pivot range

i have quick cheetsheet on how to read candleatick by a layman on another mobile, will post tomorrow morning. also rsi divergence is better indicator than candlestick imho. yes it failed in downtrend of march but so did all indicators. please study rsi divergence, you’ll learn how to mint gold. smile

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Please smile

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The thing with indicators is, you gotta remain flexible, you know. The thing works right now might not work the next moment. Ex: my system MACD, Stochastic Mtm indx, William %R( logic is one lagging, two leading indicators gives more precise prediction), when vix was really high, used to give me extremely good signals. As I do Nifty n Banknifty because of low lot size, good volume and good volatility ( because I am a newbie), the setup gave me 40-50 points after every signal, of which I could scalp only 20-23 points (don’t be greedy) from em. These days the setup works, but not so good. These days I follow another setup consisting of ATR trailing stoploss and supertrend(Some say it Trend Trader Karan replica, I saw it in some YouTube video). I take 5-6 points only. I have tried to trade those overbought (80) and oversold (20) regions of RSI with some moderate success.
So, time to time, things ll change, you gotta be more flexible in choosing your system. Don’t be afraid of switching from one to another.
In Zerodha the setup can be saved in different preset, I have 5 different saved views.
If one knows price action then one can ignore indicators and use only pivot points. My capture of price action is not matured yet.
And my system is suitable for 10-15 min scalping, in Nifty n Banknifty, other types of speculators might use a different setup. 🙂

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zerodha has rolled back all 6 indicators. anyways, booked profits, now 100% cash. let market go anywhere now. i will still stick my neck out and say 10k may come 1st then 9k, may be we don’t go there completely… let’s see.

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What triggered you to sell all remaining position today,
How are you reading today’s market and data?

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https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/61... (use this for clear view)

Hum itihas isilye likhte hain kyonki itihas khud dohrata hai.. wink

@Dastro aapko kuch dikha? Koi trend repeat hota hua?

Chart courtesy Pattu ji freefincal wale.

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As per the screenshot, seems market will soon go down!

Pattu sir… 3-4 days se FB visit nahin kiya wink

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I assume, these are just retracements and operators play for news – ease of lock down.

Q1 results will give better picture for the trend i guess. Literally ZERO business over the last 2 months for few sectors should show effect in numbers.
And we are in the last month June of Q1 and still lock down.
Except IT and Pharma , all others will have to take a hit.
Banking is like beating a dead cat – read Moratorium.

But finally markets may go anywhere. Wild guesses wont win anytime.

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